Andro series from Primordial Performance is a go

[bikeswimlive]

the problem with any metabolite of DHEA is that once they ban DHEA this whole line of products is finished, now will they ever ban DHEA? well, its been proposed a few times, so you just never know.

Big Pharma would fight that move tooth and nail.

 

[Good Grip]

If the industry saw all the methyls banned but left the Androseries alone, id be totally fine with that. And not just because im a rep, but because their goin to work awesome and be safe. Eric and Primordial Performance are eventually goin to hit mainstream media in bodybuilding with the Androseries- Muscular Development and Flex for example.

 

[djm6464]

Big Pharma would fight that move tooth and nail.

someone posted the report on another board, where mccain went after dhea 2yrs ago, they read it over and chucked it in the crapper, not even a vote....dhea has alot of supporters that will make sure it stays around

its the delivery and what the dhea becomes in the blood, that im thinking the fda will look at and try n find a loophole....putting the word steroid on the box, cmon, like they missed that

 

[Primordial]

Ph companies aren't dropping their products because of lawsuits. They are dropping them when guys with the letters DEA/FDA show up at their door. Having the name andro in the product is already a monster mistake. People still don't get it, saying your compliant and being compliant, are two different things.

Just like the gmp bucket that was used to make dermals.

Hey Mike,

You got any new unapproved new drugs coming out? Like some bulk adderall powder or something?

Did you ever get those label errors cleaned up in that "GMP" facility of yours?

-Eric

 

[djm6464]

Agreed, I've seen a few other places stating that the price per unit plus the overhead and set backs really drove up the price, but as I've seen with plenty of other primordial performance products they will be expensive initially, then they find a way to lower prices, hoping this happens as well.

i think i saw somewhere, $50+ a bottle, wtf....no wonder the prices are high

normally they come down like you said,or other sites carry them for a few bucks cheaper....then factor in all the clones that will eventually hit (probably in production now)

 

[|Z|]

the problem with any metabolite of DHEA is that once they ban DHEA this whole line of products is finished, now will they ever ban DHEA? well, its been proposed a few times, so you just never know.

The anti-aging crowd is all up on DHEA helps us out there for sure

Been proposed and shot down as there is a large lobbying group keeping it legal. Too bad we can't get this for other things...

Yup, gotta love it. I think in the end this will all drive more innovation, though, which is good for everyone.

The biggest question is do they work as claimed. If they do, great, then hopefully people will buy more and the price will go down as it is WAY out of wack at the moment in my personal opinion.

Yeah, success will lead to more demand and hopefully lower the cost of materials. Right now its so high (see below) that the cost makes sense and the nice presale discount makes it not so bad after all, all things considered.

i think i saw somewhere, $50+ a bottle, wtf....no wonder the prices are high

normally they come down like you said,or other sites carry them for a few bucks cheaper....then factor in all the clones that will eventually hit (probably in production now)

IIRC it was 57 a bottle for materials in the pills alone. Seeing that the average supplement likely runs under 8 bucks to make.... thats one of those holy $hit moments where you start to wonder what prices are out of wack all over the place. If PP delivers as they and the science appears to be stating, its worth it IMHO.

|Z|

Orbit Nutrition Rep

 

[bikeswimlive]

....putting the word steroid on the box, cmon, like they missed that

You know someone sent them a link and they were all:

 

[Good Grip]

Hopefully down the road when production is being ramped up due to high demand/return customers, we will see a price drop. I dont expect a big drop in price but anything will help. Im definatly taking a look at my supplement list and seeing what is expendable, to make room in my budget to regularly buy Androseries products. Probably the most expensive thing I spend money on is Protein powder. I use Protein powder a lot and like the convenience factor and in general enjoy consuming them. They help satisfy my cravings for sweets.

 

[eastwoodmuscle]

a lot of pp reps on here all of a sudden, almost though it was ntbm.

 

[ryansm]

a lot of pp reps on here all of a sudden, almost though it was ntbm.

We believe in the products...

 

[Arnold]

We believe in the products...

which ones have you used?

 

[eastwoodmuscle]

none of the androseries thats for sure.

actually, no one from pp has ever used any of the andro series products.

thats funny.

 

[HereToStudy]

a lot of pp reps on here all of a sudden, almost though it was ntbm.

There are only 6 reps total.

none of the androseries thats for sure.

actually, no one from pp has ever used any of the andro series products.

thats funny.

Again, the base hormones are nothing new, the delivery and ester are what defines the product, and they have been through testing.

 

[Good Grip]

none of the androseries thats for sure.

actually, no one from pp has ever used any of the andro series products.

thats funny.

Your dead pan humor is awesome dude.

 

[ryansm]

which ones have you used?

Just about all of them

 

[ryansm]

none of the androseries thats for sure.

actually, no one from pp has ever used any of the andro series products.

thats funny.

And your point is?

 

[eastwoodmuscle]

i have no point. im wrong, you guys are right.

 

[ZECH]

well instead of being an ass why don't you clarify this big misunderstanding we all seem to have here.

I don't think Mike was trying to be an ass. I do think he meant there was alot of misinformation, and I also would like to hear his take on it. Mike has been at this game longer than most.

 

[ZECH]

the problem with any metabolite of DHEA is that once they ban DHEA this whole line of products is finished, now will they ever ban DHEA? well, its been proposed a few times, so you just never know.

No you don't. Look at vit B6. Who would have thought they would ban that?

 

[ryansm]

i have no point. im wrong, you guys are right.

Well alright then

 

[OMEGAx]

I think Primordial should be VERY proud of this new line and the line as a whole

Dermacrine changed my cycles forever for the better

 

[BigBlackGuy]

No you don't. Look at vit B6. Who would have thought they would ban that?

Yah but I think that's because it was already in a pharm-grade product. But I agree, who knows.

 

[BigBlackGuy]

If he wants to whine, look at some of the other posts, those are proper whines (see my post as example). PP makes good products but (no offense) they are a bit proud of them with the prices. The good news is unlike USP Labs, most of them end up being worth the price and you don't need three bottles for a decent run.

LOL! I just saw this. Damn you educated whiners...

 

[djm6464]

I think Primordial should be VERY proud of this new line and the line as a whole

Dermacrine changed my cycles forever for the better

i can say i agree, instead of putting out cheap 17aa for the kids to gobble up, the are actually trying to change the game, for the better really, and regardless of if they really can challenge test to some degree, they are pushing the envelope and not playing things safe

i do hope they exceed dermacrine substantially though, for me, that stuff didnt do what it did for you

 

[ryansm]

I think Primordial should be VERY proud of this new line and the line as a whole

Dermacrine changed my cycles forever for the better

Thank you sir, we sure are!

 

[Trauma1]

I think Primordial should be VERY proud of this new line and the line as a whole

Dermacrine changed my cycles forever for the better

I agree. Dermacrine is a great product.

Eric put in a lot of time and effort with this new series, so I think we're all eagerly awaiting some logs/feedback.




-John

 

[Good Grip]

i can say i agree, instead of putting out cheap 17aa for the kids to gobble up, the are actually trying to change the game, for the better really, and regardless of if they really can challenge test to some degree, they are pushing the envelope and not playing things safe

i do hope they exceed dermacrine substantially though, for me, that stuff didnt do what it did for you

Thats a good point you bring up djm, prohormones are not to be taken lightly and in my opinion best used around the age of 25 (for 1st time).

I hope they exceed Dermacrine too. I was sad to see the old Dermacrine go but you need to make room for something new and better.

 

[OMEGAx]

I think its great, they push the envelope but with a level of sophistication

 

[ryansm]

Logs are coming soon, couple more weeks now!

 

[HereToStudy]

I think its great, they push the envelope but with a level of sophistication

I love when we are described that way.