Another AI and SERM question.

[RonJ71]

Sorry for putting this question up, I know you guys hear it all the time, but anyways. I'm on almost on week 6 of test E 500mg a week, and proviron 75mg a week. Background, a few years back I developed a lump on a test/tren run. Have had a minor lump ever since. Now, even right away, in the first week, my nips get that feeling, and soreness around my lump. So, before I started I had adex, letro, and nolvadex on hand, have aromasin laying around to. I started with taking .5 dex eod right away, it didn't get rid of the funny nips, so I went to ed, nothing, so I went to 1mg a day for 4 weeks, still nothing. I'm monitoring my lump, making sure its not getting noticeable, so I have continued. I have switched to letro and nolvadex for 1.5 weeks, and dropped the arimidex. My question, how long before I should stop the test? Obviously if it grows, I'm done! Am I just a unlucky individual who's body won't agree, or maybe I have bad stuff? Any ideas would be appreciated, thanks.

 

[gman10]

Not entirely sure if its letro or armidex (or maybe even another 1) aren't well suited to go along w/ nolva, read up on ai's in general but on what to combo nolva w/........if u can get blood work as soon as possible that will steer in the right direction as well, post ur results so some of the guys can really help u out........good luck....

 

[gman10]

Also, I remember recently reading an article abt aromison/nolva work well together.....

 

[XYZ]

You said the lump came on during a test and tren run? It might not be an estrogen issue at all. It could be a progesterone issue from your last run.

If your A/I's are not bunk and you're dosing it like that you should be having some kind or relief by now.

If it is progestin, you might want to hold off on using the nolva as it has the possibility of making progestin gyno worse.

 

[RonJ71]

Hey thanks guys, I did look up what goes best with nolvadex, it is letro. If you take adex with nolvadex it weakens the adex. I thought About the progestin, but I looked past it, because I am only on test, here is another question. Can a lump from progestin be aggravated by test? So then being on test only, would dostin or is it prami be neccescary?

 

[Jimmyinkedup]

Hey thanks guys, I did look up what goes best with nolvadex, it is letro. If you take adex with nolvadex it weakens the adex. I thought About the progestin, but I looked past it, because I am only on test, here is another question. Can a lump from progestin be aggravated by test? So then being on test only, would dostin or is it prami be neccescary?

This is how it works.
Nolva reduces blood levels of both letro AND arimidex...but has no effect on exemestane.
Raloxifene has no effect on blood levels of any ai. Raloxifene should be serm of choice when it comes to gyno anyway. It has the strongest binding affinity to the estrogen receptor of any serm available.

 

[s2h]

Lumps don't lie...you need surgery or you will continue to have issues...its pretty common these days and not overly expensive...that's really the only solution if it stick with you this long...

Since your running test now only and you are getting sensitivity and puffiness even on 1mg of adex Ed...that tells me your very gyno prone...nolvadex will be needed to block the binding of the estrogen to that area..aromasin could/should be your AI of choice..

 

[RonJ71]

Thanks for the input guys. So back to what xyz said about the tren and progesterone. If the lump was from the tren, could it be affected by the test now? I'm sure it could, but I haven't ever read anything or heard about it. And what s2h said, I know I'm gyno prone, but, does that mean there is nothing that can stop it? Or just nothing I have found or tried yet?

 

[longworthb]

Only true way to stop it is surgery. Out of curiosity what dose letro were u running

 

[s2h]

Thanks for the input guys. So back to what xyz said about the tren and progesterone. If the lump was from the tren, could it be affected by the test now? I'm sure it could, but I haven't ever read anything or heard about it. And what s2h said, I know I'm gyno prone, but, does that mean there is nothing that can stop it? Or just nothing I have found or tried yet?

prolactin and estrogen bind to different receptors..thou there both in the same area..its speculation cause you could have gyno issues from both..but i would think since you got the lump on test/tren..and now on test only you are having more problems..that it most likely could be estrogen thats the issue..you really need labs on cycle to determine whats going on..and i would say its a must..this isnt the kind of thing you want to be guessing at...

the real solution is surgery to have the gland removed..that will fix the gyno issue..

 

[RonJ71]

I am still using letro, i started at 1.5, and am using 2mg now everyday. The only side I feel so far is fatigue. The nips are not as sensitive, but, the lump still has some soreness.