any1 use gangsta??

[brodus]

BruceWayne, being black and working out at a gym does not make you a "Gansta" nor a "Gangster."

"Gangstas" don't buy gym memberships and they sure as hell don't buy gangsta test, and if you think otherwise, you're not very intelligent, you've never slung a drug in your life, you've never talked your way out of time, and you don't know the first thing about the game, so quit your bullshitting about LA "ganstas" working out at your gym. I'm sure you've never even met anyone that moves kilos of anything serious or uses a gun to settle disputes, so stop pretending they work out at your gym.

I workout in urban Chicago, I've done my time, and I have associates who have moved mass quantities of everything, so I know what I'm talking about.

Those people in your gym aren't playing the game, their being sold shit, and that's why they're a far cry from a real OG. The game is pimps and bitches, your either a seller or a buyer, and no real MFer is going to waste time buying shit from anyone when there's paper to be made, and angle to run, and new hos in town to pimp.

To that end, the owner of VPX is a pimp to the highest degree--look at what he's done. $10000 says he doesn't use Gangsta Test and doesn't workout even 10% as much as the hos he employs. So I guess this thread should be closed, b/c indeed, the name is very appropriate, and to the original poster:

YES IT WORKS! YES, FOR DRY GAINS! YES, HAS HIGH DHT AND ANDROGENIC SIDE EFFECTS! TRY IT, YOU'LL PROBABLY LIKE IT!

 

[gopro]

Originally posted by brodus
It's getting old for you? Why, by your own admission, you and everyone else at VPX is making a ton of money--why do you care what we say? VPX alreday has an exit strategy from the PH market, yes? They don't spend any of their money on stopping legislation, correct?

Maybe you should expand your perceptual focus and see its getting even older for the consumers who have a brain.

No one is crying or getting angry. A person asked a question about a product, and people are giving their honest opinions. Your company makes products that work, but cost upwards of 200% what others do and come with labels and names that look like they were designed for a joke on Conan O'Brian.

Consumers are entitled to their opinion, and no one here said VPX products don't work.

Concerns of price and hype are very real to many people, because actions speak louder than words, and greed is something many people wish to distance themselves. You don't get a bully pulpit here, this is a public forum.

If you're so confident about the intergity of VPX, why don't you go post this same stuff on AM and see how long it lasts? I'm sure you know how much they care for you over there.

Or better yet, why don't you let consumers talk about our experiences without feeling the need to butt in. It only makes VPX look bad, not good.

If you knew even the first rules of leaderhsip and perception, you'd know that confident people don't need to get defensive about their work if they truly believe they are doing a good job.

Hey GoPro--who exactly is the target market for Gangsta Test, anyway? Any plans on packaging it with an Eminem CD and doing in-school demos?

I can tell you "think" you are a smart guy and the fact that you even mention AM is of no suprise to me (Do you think I care what the guys at AM have to think?) as people from there love to bring up the fact that they banned me. Oh, what a loss to me. Please.

Now, I will not bother going over the pathetic ramblings of your entire wordy, drawn out, boring post. However, I WILL point to the one short paragraph that must have fired off at least a few of the brain cells in your grey matter:

"Or better yet, why don't you let consumers talk about our experiences without feeling the need to butt in. It only makes VPX look bad, not good."

Therein lies the rub. A person asked about Gangsta Test. He wanted to know if anyone tried it and how well it did or didn't work for them. He didn't ask about a price. He didn't ask for an opinion on the name. He didn't ask about VPXs advertising policy. And he didn't ask about the so called "target demographic."

So you see "genius" nobody talked about their experiences, but about the matters above which clearly did not help the person posting. Heck, even if you haven't used G-Test, perhaps you have used another 5 AA product and could at least discuss that.

But no, this had to turn into yet another VPX bashing session, exactly like all the others, and mostly by the same people. Again, no help to the person that originally posted.

And remember 1 little thing smart guy, just as easily as I was banned at AM, I have the power to do so to you on THIS board.

 

[gopro]

Originally posted by brodus

To that end, the owner of VPX is a pimp to the highest degree--look at what he's done. $10000 says he doesn't use Gangsta Test and doesn't workout even 10% as much as the hos he employs.

Do you have 10 k to cough up genius? The owner of VPX works out as much as any of us. Maintains a 6 pack year around. And, was the first of us to do a cycle of G-Test and LOVES the stuff.

How many more incorrect assumptions do you want to make today?

 

[craig777]

Zenith or Brodus,

Can you tell me who answered the first guys question.

or did this turn immediately into a VPX bashing thread.

From the very first reply it turned into a VPX bashing thread. If you guys don't care for VPX that is fine, but if you have nothing to add then don't post.

 

[brodus]

YES IT WORKS! YES, FOR DRY GAINS! YES, HAS HIGH DHT AND ANDROGENIC SIDE EFFECTS! TRY IT, YOU'LL PROBABLY LIKE IT!

 

[gopro]

Originally posted by brodus

But first it took an entire thread of VPX bashing to get any real feedback out.

 

[bigswole30]

If someone knows what to expect with a 5-AA product then they will not be disappointed with G-test. I used it for just 10 days to prep for the day at the beach with a ex-girl of mine. I was amazed at how well I responded to it in just a short amount of time. Considering I carb depleted for one week straight I still maintained most if not all of my muscle fulness. I was vascular to the point that my lady friend said it looked gross. It was great. I can't wait to use it during my contest prep.

 

[BruceWayNE]

Originally posted by brodus
BruceWayne, being black and working out at a gym does not make you a "Gansta" nor a "Gangster."

"Gangstas" don't buy gym memberships and they sure as hell don't buy gangsta test, and if you think otherwise, you're not very intelligent, you've never slung a drug in your life, you've never talked your way out of time, and you don't know the first thing about the game, so quit your bullshitting about LA "ganstas" working out at your gym. I'm sure you've never even met anyone that moves kilos of anything serious or uses a gun to settle disputes, so stop pretending they work out at your gym.

I workout in urban Chicago, I've done my time, and I have associates who have moved mass quantities of everything, so I know what I'm talking about.

Those people in your gym aren't playing the game, their being sold shit, and that's why they're a far cry from a real OG. The game is pimps and bitches, your either a seller or a buyer, and no real MFer is going to waste time buying shit from anyone when there's paper to be made, and angle to run, and new hos in town to pimp.

To that end, the owner of VPX is a pimp to the highest degree--look at what he's done. $10000 says he doesn't use Gangsta Test and doesn't workout even 10% as much as the hos he employs. So I guess this thread should be closed, b/c indeed, the name is very appropriate, and to the original poster:

YES IT WORKS! YES, FOR DRY GAINS! YES, HAS HIGH DHT AND ANDROGENIC SIDE EFFECTS! TRY IT, YOU'LL PROBABLY LIKE IT!

I read your first argument and thought to my self this guy makes a point. I thought you presented your argument intelligently. Then you Fucked up and assumed you could call me out based on assumptions of what I know and what I do. I'm not proud of it, but fuck it. I did sell drugs. My father is a gangsta from HOOVER. My mom was from Hoover. My best friend is doing fifty to life right now for murder. My father is in prison right now for selling drugs. I've been in more fights and shoot-outs than I care to mention. I got out of that life for my kids and because I have a more promising career ahead of me in rap. But You sound stupid now, making uncharted assumptions. Based on what? Because My name is brucewayne on this board. Because you assumed I was White. A lot of the dudes I know from my gym are gangstas, And if you don't think so come and tell them they aint. LA Fitness on La Cienega and 18th. Or You can come and holla at me on Crenshaw and Washington.

 

[gopro]

Originally posted by BruceWayNE
I read your first argument and thought to my self this guy makes a point. I thought you presented your argument intelligently. Then you Fucked up and assumed you could call me out based on assumptions of what I know and what I do. I'm not proud of it, but fuck it. I did sell drugs. My father is a gangsta from HOOVER. My mom was from Hoover. My best friend is doing fifty to life right now for murder. My father is in prison right now for selling drugs. I've been in more fights and shoot-outs than I care to mention. I got out of that life for my kids and because I have a more promising career ahead of me in rap. But You sound stupid now, making uncharted assumptions. Based on what? Because My name is brucewayne on this board. Because you assumed I was White. A lot of the dudes I know from my gym are gangstas, And if you don't think so come and tell them they aint. LA Fitness on La Cienega and 18th. Or You can come and holla at me on Crenshaw and Washington.

So there

 

[brodus]

Bruce, if you're not lying, then you have a right to react that way and I owe you an apology. I shouldn't assume anything about you, having never met you, and only having your posts to go by. I told myself I wouldn't flame people anymore, but sometimes after popping ephedrine I get too hot.

I have this displaced anger thing sometimes because I've seen a lot of shit, and I know it's not healthy. But I'm especially trying to watch what I say after reading about the tragic death of Trevor Smith, and about how much people's posts pushed him farther into depression.

I guess we have different definitions of what the game is and whos playing. My point was that people who are still in the game hardcore don't buy this product--that's an assumption, but I'd ask you how interested you were in buying something like the product at hand when you were dealing. I know how much time I spent thinking about this stuff when I was active, and my experience is similar to almost everyone I associate with.

Especially if you're speaking truth about your past, you should be offended at the marketing, its exploitative and it targets kids, but whatever, enough of this. I shouldn't have assumed anything about you, you're right, I wouldn't want that in return. Good luck with your music career.

Peace, everyone.

 

[BruceWayNE]

Originally posted by brodus
Bruce, if you're not lying, then you have a right to react that way and I owe you an apology. I shouldn't assume anything about you, having never met you, and only having your posts to go by. I told myself I wouldn't flame people anymore, but sometimes after popping ephedrine I get too hot.

I have this displaced anger thing sometimes because I've seen a lot of shit, and I know it's not healthy. But I'm especially trying to watch what I say after reading about the tragic death of Trevor Smith, and about how much people's posts pushed him farther into depression.

I guess we have different definitions of what the game is and whos playing. My point was that people who are still in the game hardcore don't buy this product--that's an assumption, but I'd ask you how interested you were in buying something like the product at hand when you were dealing. I know how much time I spent thinking about this stuff when I was active, and my experience is similar to almost everyone I associate with.

Especially if you're speaking truth about your past, you should be offended at the marketing, its exploitative and it targets kids, but whatever, enough of this. I shouldn't have assumed anything about you, you're right, I wouldn't want that in return. Good luck with your music career.

Peace, everyone.

Thanx, and you're right when I was heavy in the streets I wasn't taking supplements. All I had was a bench press.

 

[Michael D]

Even Gopro want call it "Gangsta test". Gotta say G test!

posted by bigswole 30:I was vascular to the point that my lady friend said it looked gross. It was great.

That was funny to me, "it was great" lol.

I wasn't bashing VPX just in case it seemed like it. I have never used their products but my friend used some 1test from them and liked it alot, so I wouldn't hesitate to try it.

 

[BruceWayNE]

I would definitely try gangsta test. But with two 2 kids and a shitload of bills, not to mention M1T is the truth and only cost $10. I don't need to right now. But I'll tell you this San and VPX is the only companies I trust to deliver exactly what they say they'll deliver.

 

[gopro]

Originally posted by Michael D
Even Gopro want call it "Gangsta test". Gotta say G test!

I've said it several times before...I don't like the name either. What I DO know for a fact is that the owner is not really trying to "target" any particular market with the name. I know how he operates. He just thinks the name is catchy and memorable. Since he built VPX from a small, one product, storefront company into a multi, multi million $ per year empire, I tend to trust his marketing judgement. However, he also wants to keep VPX very scientifically based, and to me, he went too far off this route with Gangsta.

 

[brodus]

What I DO know for a fact is that the owner is not really trying to "target" any particular market with the name.

I was going to leave this thread and let it go, but dude, why do have to go and say things like that?! I know you're smarter than this!

No one just makes up product names for no reason. That's marketing 101.

There is intentionality behind every professional decision, and I think your owner's success should show you of all people that his marketing expertise is top notch and he really knows what he's doing. This further supports my point.

No one who builds a supp. company from nothing to one that can easily sell products for twice other companies prices chooses product names arbitrarily.

Does Methyl 5AA work, yes. Does it promote dry, lean gains and precontest hardening, yes. Can I buy it for $3 a gram retail? Yes, and so can everyone else. There is a reason why it's named what it is, and VPX knows that a name and flashy label helps sell a $3 product* for $60 to a specific market segment with a specific amount of expendable income, and as you can see from posters here, it's not us. It's called strategic marketing. Please don't insult us by pretending the name was chosen arbitrarily.

(There are a few VPX products I will likely use in the future, and I know the quality control and everything is top notch, so I'm only specifically referring to this product, but in terms of marketing, my statements should be apparent to anyone who's even had one business class. I have no bone to pick, I am just concerned that the truth is told in public forums)


*Actually, with less than one gram (720 mg) of Methly 5AA in the product at hand, you have less than $2.75 in active ingredients, and thats at retail prices and not even retail bulk prices. If you know anything about the science behind methylation, you know Methyls don't need a "liposomal" delivery method (or any special delivery method) to bypass liver degradation and rapidly disperse in the bloodstream, so we're truly talking about less than $3 of actives. Hence my claims of extreme overpricing, and further the importance of strategic marketing. This may be one of the best examples ever of this, which is why I'm not letting go.

 

[gopro]

Originally posted by brodus
I was going to leave this thread and let it go, but dude, why do have to go and say things like that?! I know you're smarter than this!

No one just makes up product names for no reason. That's marketing 101.

There is intentionality behind every professional decision, and I think your owner's success should show you of all people that his marketing expertise is top notch and he really knows what he's doing. This further supports my point.

No one who builds a supp. company from nothing to one that can easily sell products for twice other companies prices chooses product names arbitrarily.

Does Methyl 5AA work, yes. Does it promote dry, lean gains and precontest hardening, yes. Can I buy it for $3 a gram retail? Yes, and so can everyone else. There is a reason why it's named what it is, and VPX knows that a name and flashy label helps sell a $3 product* for $60 to a specific market segment with a specific amount of expendable income, and as you can see from posters here, it's not us. It's called strategic marketing. Please don't insult us by pretending the name was chosen arbitrarily.

(There are a few VPX products I will likely use in the future, and I know the quality control and everything is top notch, so I'm only specifically referring to this product, but in terms of marketing, my statements should be apparent to anyone who's even had one business class. I have no bone to pick, I am just concerned that the truth is told in public forums)


*Actually, with less than one gram (720 mg) of Methly 5AA in the product at hand, you have less than $2.75 in active ingredients, and thats at retail prices and not even retail bulk prices. If you know anything about the science behind methylation, you know Methyls don't need a "liposomal" delivery method (or any special delivery method) to bypass liver degradation and rapidly disperse in the bloodstream, so we're truly talking about less than $3 of actives. Hence my claims of extreme overpricing, and further the importance of strategic marketing. This may be one of the best examples ever of this, which is why I'm not letting go.

The problem is, you just don't know Jack!

We don't sit in meetings and say, "Ok, we need to target a certain market with this product. Let's pick a name to get to that market." Etc.

What happens is Jack says to us, "We need a name for the new product. Everyone come up with a few and let me know. But make it original and flashy and fun!"

When Jack hears something he likes, that catches his attention, he goes with it. When we came out with Monster Test all it took was someone to say, "Dude, I tried it for a week and I feel like a freaking monster!" And boom, there's your name.

You are looking into this too deeply. But hey, if you have the time....

 

[IronSlingah]

LMFAO@ "GANGSTA TEST" i thought it was a joke untill i saw it in real life LOLOLOLOL!! i might buy some to show it to my gym buddies.

 

[gopro]

Originally posted by IronSlingah
LMFAO@ "GANGSTA TEST" i thought it was a joke untill i saw it in real life LOLOLOLOL!! i might buy some to show it to my gym buddies.

Buy it because it works! I can't believe the changes I see in a few of the guys that I know that have been using it for only a week!

 

[bigswole30]

It's funny that people are so hung up on the name. Anyone who has used 5-AA knows how effective it is...well, now you have a methylated version with a prop ester attached. WOW

 

[Budz08]

i'm gonna give it a shot afer my m1-t 4-ad cycle...after the 2 week pct of course...i just hope that all that ur saying is true gopro

 

[andythemc]

ay bruce you got a music website on soundclick or something? lemme hear those raps, i spit too. peace!

 

[Budz08]

it's not going to stop me from trying it or anything but what's the taste like? does it burn the back of your throat a bit like vpx m1-t? more like irratate than burn i guess.

 

[bigswole30]

Originally posted by Budz08
it's not going to stop me from trying it or anything but what's the taste like? does it burn the back of your throat a bit like vpx m1-t? more like irratate than burn i guess.

It taste nothing like M-1-T so do not worry. M-1-T's taste is from it's irratant properties.

 

[topolo]

I JUST ORDERED IT!!!!!!!

 

[gopro]

Originally posted by Budz08
i'm gonna give it a shot afer my m1-t 4-ad cycle...after the 2 week pct of course...i just hope that all that ur saying is true gopro

Well, I hope so too

 

[Testosterone]

You didn't mention they gain 20 Lbs of PURE TWISTED STEEL per month

Originally posted by gopro
several people I know (a few work at VPX and a few don't) are using G-test and they are getting harder, more vascular, and stronger by the day. In fact, I think that people like this stuff better than M 1-T or Mad 250.

 

[gopro]

Originally posted by Testosterone
You didn't mention they gain 20 Lbs of PURE TWISTED STEEL per month

Well, thats b/c I don't lie about things. With M 1-T, they may very well gain nearly that amount if they are an extraordinary responder. However, weight gain is not the point of ANY 5aa or 3aa supplement...hardness and strength is.

 

[titans1854]

does 5aa and 3aa pretty much have just as bad side effects as other PH's?

 

[gopro]

Originally posted by titans1854
does 5aa and 3aa pretty much have just as bad side effects as other PH's?

I'd say they have a propensity for being a bit more harsh, especially the methylated version, i.e., Gangsta Test. They are best used for short periods.

 

[Sir Foxx]

3 Reasons not to buy this product:

1: It's marketed to teens. No matter what you believe or your company owner says(obviously lying comes very easy to him), that is the targeted audience with this assinine name.

2: It has a propianate ester on it. Stupid, stupid, stupid. M5aa is best as a pre workout intensifier, so what does VPX do, put this 3 day ester on it. Why? I want an immediate effect off of it, not 3 days later. On top of that if I start to see some sides(M5aa has sides written all over it) from this that I don't want, I have to wait a minimum of 3 days for this to be out of my system. Real Smart.

3: Don't support a company that tried to pass the lie of their polylipid delivery system being somehow safer when using 17aa tech. This is how people get hurt. It was blatant and sleazy.