any1 use gangsta??

[BabsieGirl]

WUZ up sir?

 

[Sir Foxx]

Not a whole lot, you? Just working on my PFT certification. Finally decided to get paid for doing what I love

 

[BabsieGirl]

Hey, nothing wrong with that!!!!

Was thinking about it myself! My old gym said they'd hire me in a heart beat! So, I'm kicking the idear around. I have a few online clients and they're doing really well.

 

[gopro]

Originally posted by Sir Foxx
3 Reasons not to buy this product:

1: It's marketed to teens. No matter what you believe or your company owner says(obviously lying comes very easy to him), that is the targeted audience with this assinine name.

2: It has a propianate ester on it. Stupid, stupid, stupid. M5aa is best as a pre workout intensifier, so what does VPX do, put this 3 day ester on it. Why? I want an immediate effect off of it, not 3 days later. On top of that if I start to see some sides(M5aa has sides written all over it) from this that I don't want, I have to wait a minimum of 3 days for this to be out of my system. Real Smart.

3: Don't support a company that tried to pass the lie of their polylipid delivery system being somehow safer when using 17aa tech. This is how people get hurt. It was blatant and sleazy.

Ok, what was your name the last time you were over here? Or, what is your name on AM?

In reference to # 1...pathetically wrong.

In reference to # 2...the proprionate ester means nothing when used orally AND most people do not use it for a pre-workout boost, but for the hardening effects it has on muscle. In that case, there is nothing wrong with the prop ester. People are using to get a similar effect to something like Masteron PROPRIONATE.

In reference to # 3...this has been beaten to death and explained. You just chose to ignore that and continue with your diarrhea of the mouth.

1 EXCELLENT reason to buy this product. EVERYONE on it is getting amazing results. Period.

 

[Sir Foxx]

My name is the same as it has always been here and on any board.

Your excuses:

#1: That's the best you could come up with?

#2: If the ester means nothing orally, then why add it the first place. You can get the same hardening effects without the ester. Something has been added with no useful effect or reasoning.

#3: There is no explanation other than greed and lack of concern for VPX customers who might not know any better.

 

[BabsieGirl]

Uh oh......

Debate

 

[Sir Foxx]

It's a friendly debate, I assure you Babsie.

I just like breaking VPX reps balls every now and then.

 

[BabsieGirl]

I hear ya

Hey, you all have nice weekend!!!!!

 

[brodus]

#2: If the ester means nothing orally, then why add it the first place. You can get the same hardening effects without the ester. Something has been added with no useful effect or reasoning.

I think GoPro gave a very good reason for why they added the ester:

People are using to get a similar effect to something like Masteron PROPRIONATE

So it's added to give the impression that is similar to Masteron...and possibly to cloud the fact that pure Methyl 5AA can be purchased fro $3 a gram retail, and there's less than a gram in the $60 bottle they sell. Of course, the target audience knows no better, and when they read "propinate," they think "Wow--just like the injectable stuff!"

And lastly, it should be apparent to everyone that VPX is successful PRECISELY BECAUSE of their marketing savvy. They consistently sell $3 products for $60, and it's no accident, and not because they have access to chemicals no one else does. To pretend that there is no intentionality behind product names and marketing is truly naive.

All I am doing is holding up a mirror. All I have done is descontruct what has happened. Actions speak louder than words, and my analysis is no different than what you would find in a college marketing or chemistry classroom.

 

[gopro]

Originally posted by brodus
I think GoPro gave a very good reason for why they added the ester:



So it's added to give the impression that is similar to Masteron...and possibly to cloud the fact that pure Methyl 5AA can be purchased fro $3 a gram retail, and there's less than a gram in the $60 bottle they sell. Of course, the target audience knows no better, and when they read "propinate," they think "Wow--just like the injectable stuff!"

And lastly, it should be apparent to everyone that VPX is successful PRECISELY BECAUSE of their marketing savvy. They consistently sell $3 products for $60, and it's no accident, and not because they have access to chemicals no one else does. To pretend that there is no intentionality behind product names and marketing is truly naive.

All I am doing is holding up a mirror. All I have done is descontruct what has happened. Actions speak louder than words, and my analysis is no different than what you would find in a college marketing or chemistry classroom.

And I'm glad that I work for a company that makes quality products and knows also how to make alot of money...this way they can pay me what I'm worth

 

[gopro]

Originally posted by Sir Foxx
My name is the same as it has always been here and on any board.

Your excuses:

#1: That's the best you could come up with?

#2: If the ester means nothing orally, then why add it the first place. You can get the same hardening effects without the ester. Something has been added with no useful effect or reasoning.

#3: There is no explanation other than greed and lack of concern for VPX customers who might not know any better.

1. You are wrong and that is all I can say. I explained how and why Jack comes up with the names he does in an earlier post to Brodus. You will not choose to believe me so why go any further. I don't waste my breath...it makes me catabolic.

2. The ester DOES mean something b/c some people feel that it will work better for hardness if it lasts longer in the system...and those THAT DO want to use it for pre-workout strength can still go the fast acting oral route.

3. I have corrected this notion several times and any time I am asked, I make sure that people know that the liver stress is the same...polylipid or not.

 

[gopro]

Originally posted by Sir Foxx
It's a friendly debate, I assure you Babsie.

I just like breaking VPX reps balls every now and then.

Yes, and these debates are actually so much fun for me. Without controversy, life would be boring.

 

[Dale Mabry]

GP, how does the Micellean MRP Graham Cracker taste? I just ordered a few boxes for before bedtime.

 

[Power Rabbit]

Well GP i do disagree with you on one point...most people do use it as a prework out boost...well, before you guys made it..at this point with all the vpx sales its probably 50/50 ...but when i think of m5aa i think of legal mythel test or cheque drops without the anger...

But you are right...for the way gangsta is trying to produce a winny/masteron hardening effect, the prop ester is the better idea because you wont have to take it as often..

I really dont think its marketed to teens....i just think it is a ridiculously dumb name I however praise VPX so much for not gear nameing it up...i would have been annoied by a "mastervar" or a "Liquid Win" etc