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anyone freeze test their vials?

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saw on another forum someone talkin about "freeze testing" their vials. has anyone done this? if so, what do i look for in the vial other than the oil?
 
Freezing causes some dissolved solids to precipitate out (this is basic chemistry) as crystals. However, once the dissolved substance precipitates out, you typically have to dissolve it again (this is typically accomplished by heating the oil) for injection. Heat is the enemy of all things, including complex proteins (it causes them to degrade).
 
Some good gear will re-take by itself once removed from the freezer
 
Some good gear will re-take by itself once removed from the freezer[/QUOT

agreed ^^^^ most long ester gear will come back without reheating (depends on the concentration ), short ester like prop, would need some heat.
 
Shit I have some prop and npp @ 200mg/ml that retakes after frozen
 
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I don't see any point in doing this. Why expose those precious long chained molecules to extreme temperature changes.....

Brew your own shit and never question what's in the vial....
 
I don't see any point in doing this. Why expose those precious long chained molecules to extreme temperature changes.....

Brew your own shit and never question what's in the vial....

The downside to brewing your own stuff is questioning what's in the powder.
 
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I know there are some really good UGL out there, but they tend to turn sour or drop off the planet. I'd rather spend some $ and get legit stuff from a pharmacy. Aside from tren there is too many ways to get everything else legit.
 
I know there are some really good UGL out there, but they tend to turn sour or drop off the planet. I'd rather spend some $ and get legit stuff from a pharmacy. Aside from tren there is too many ways to get everything else legit.

I don't disagree with you, although i'd imagine pharm grade gear is a bit more pricey, yea? Some of us are roidin on a budget (hah). So for me I buy my powders directly from a manufacturer in China... then i brew my own gear. Never had an issue doing it this way, and i can be certain on the dosing. I also use generic GH for this reason - which is even sketchier... but if you find the right source with quality LEGIT generic GH you can run it for a (relatively) cheap price. Maybe some day i'll be able to have all human grade / pharmacy stuff, but until then.... budget status.
 
I don't disagree with you, although i'd imagine pharm grade gear is a bit more pricey, yea? Some of us are roidin on a budget (hah). So for me I buy my powders directly from a manufacturer in China... then i brew my own gear. Never had an issue doing it this way, and i can be certain on the dosing. I also use generic GH for this reason - which is even sketchier... but if you find the right source with quality LEGIT generic GH you can run it for a (relatively) cheap price. Maybe some day i'll be able to have all human grade / pharmacy stuff, but until then.... budget status.

First one is cheap...additional vials get expensive. But peace of mind for me is worth the $ I always felt paranoid on UGL products. No to mention I have yet to get test flu on human grade RX test...I've only had that feeling from UGL gear.
 
Freezing causes some dissolved solids to precipitate out (this is basic chemistry) as crystals. However, once the dissolved substance precipitates out, you typically have to dissolve it again (this is typically accomplished by heating the oil) for injection. Heat is the enemy of all things, including complex proteins (it causes them to degrade).
reheating your test wont degrade it(we aren't talking about extreme heat... 160-180degrees farenheit would do it... I wouldn't do this with tren, it is very succeptible to degradation upon heating...

We aren't talking about complex proteins or peptides here, we are talking about esters(carbon chains, not amino chains...)... You can always make your own, and you know what is in it.. freezing most things will crash them, but not all... I know it wouldn't crash a lot of enanthates... and some cypionates it wouldn't, while others it would... kinda depends on the amt of solvents and cosolvents in them... you could crash test prop pretty easy, but you should be able to tell if prop is legit within days of using it anyway(if not RIGHT away, due to pip)...

if you are that worried about knowing if there is 'active compound' in your oil.. make it yourself... there are sources for VERY high quality powders... look at the bottom of my post, you will see one of the best, if not THE BEST! and, by far, the best to deal with.....
 
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