Avoiding Arginine

[GoalGetter]

thats not what I got from that

unless I've understood this wrong all along, if a girl with a cold sore goes downtown on you, and you contract the virus from her mouth on your wanker, you now have herpes simplex 1 because that is what she had and gave you. She can't give you a virus she doesn't have (simplex 2).

and vice versa if you go downtown on a girl with a herpes outbreak on her genitals (most likely simplex 2) and you get a herpes outbreak on your mouth at some point. You are more likely to have herpes simplex 2 because that is what she had.

Is there a doctor in the house who can elaborate on this? I don't know much more.

 

[ASSPUNCTURE]

unless I've understood this wrong all along, if a girl with a cold sore goes downtown on you, and you contract the virus from her mouth on your wanker, you now have herpes simplex 1 because that is what she had and gave you. She can't give you a virus she doesn't have (simplex 2).

and vice versa if you go downtown on a girl with a herpes outbreak on her genitals (most likely simplex 2) and you get a herpes outbreak on your mouth at some point. You are more likely to have herpes simplex 2 because that is what she had.

Is there a doctor in the house who can elaborate on this? I don't know much more.

I agree with you GG, thanks for the read also


VAR my brother how are you? July is my one year anniversery here : )
I am sitting here carbing up right now, so fantastic to answer your question, thanks for askin

 

[GoalGetter]

When I see a cold sore on a womans mouth I run......thats one opinion I wont test

That is too bad. It is very ignorant on your part. I've gotten cold sores since I was a little kid. 80% of the population carries the herpes simplex 1 virus, only about 20% of that ever show signs of it. When i was younger I was so ashamed because I felt like everyone thought i got it from oral sex or something (and people like you make people like me feel like shit when you say ignorant crap like that), but the truth of the matter is that you might have that virus and never even know it or show signs of it (lucky you).

No offense, and don't take this as me trying to pick an argument, but you need to educate yourself before you say things like that.

 

[Var]

VAR my brother how are you? July is my one year anniversery here : )
I am sitting here carbing up right now, so fantastic to answer your question, thanks for askin

Whats this shit? You better start spewing your tactless, raunchy bullshit or I'm going to lose all faith in you. Find God or something?

 

[GFR]

That is too bad. It is very ignorant on your part. I've gotten cold sores since I was a little kid. 80% of the population carries the herpes simplex 1 virus, only about 20% of that ever show signs of it. When i was younger I was so ashamed because I felt like everyone thought i got it from oral sex or something (and people like you make people like me feel like shit when you say ignorant crap like that), but the truth of the matter is that you might have that virus and never even know it or show signs of it (lucky you).

No offense, and don't take this as me trying to pick an argument, but you need to educate yourself before you say things like that.

There many herpes web sites that very clearly state you can get genital herpes from cols sores......I am not the one who is ignorant...You have to respect and take care of your body, and part of that is Knowing what dangers are out there.

 

[GoalGetter]

There many herpes web sites that very clearly state you can get genital herpes from cols sores......I am not the one who is ignorant...You have to respect and take care of your body, and part of that is Knowing what dangers are out there.

i never said you couldn't get genital herpes from an oral herpes outbreak. You most certainly can and i JUST SAID THAT.

However, you dont' need to "run" from a girl who has oral herpes unless you are ignorant and think you can get it by simply looking at her (this is sarcasm, i know that's not what you implied). There are ways to prevent transmission of the virus.

And it still doesn't turn simplex 1 into simplex 2 just because it is on another site on the body besides the mouth if it originated from an oral herpes contraction. That's all I'm saying.

Anyway, I'm going to bed. I don't have much else to say here that would be of help to the original person who started this thread.

Good night.

 

[GFR]

i never said you couldn't get genital herpes from an oral herpes outbreak. You most certainly can and i JUST SAID THAT.

However, you dont' need to "run" from a girl who has oral herpes unless you are ignorant and think you can get it by simply looking at her (this is sarcasm, i know that's not what you implied). There are ways to prevent transmission of the virus.

And it still doesn't turn simplex 1 into simplex 2 just because it is on another site on the body besides the mouth if it originated from an oral herpes contraction. That's all I'm saying.

Anyway, I'm going to bed. I don't have much else to say here that would be of help to the original person who started this thread.

Good night.

Herpes can be spread at any time and I just don't want to get it, so if I'm a bad guy for that ok. The only way to prevent it is not to come into contact in an intimate way with some one who has it

 

[Emma-Leigh]

Herpes can be spread at any time and I just don't want to get it, so if I'm a bad guy for that ok. The only way to prevent it is not to come into contact in an intimate way with some one who has it

Stop sh*t stirring please.

You don't have your facts correct. Get the right information and then do what you want in your life... but don't just spread your ignorant opinion all over the board - it is not appreciated.


GENITAL HERPES AND ORAL HERPES ARE DIFFERENT
What you are doing is comparing the cold and the flu. Sure - some of the signs/symptoms may be similar - but they are not the same thing and one is a lot more severe than the other!

Herpes Simplex 1 (cold sores) is generally transmitted via saliva and primarily causes mouth ulcers (cold sores).

Herpes Simplex 2 (genital herpes) is a SEPARATE VIRUS STRAIN. It USUALLY results from independent transmission via sexual contact with people who have actively shedding genital lesions.

They used to be very easy to distinguish (based purely on the site of the infection)... However, due to oro-genital sexual practices, isolates of the simplex 1 virus are detected on the genitals and isolates of the herpes simplex 2 virus are detected in the mouth.

You can't catch 'genital herpes' (simplex 2) from someone who has 'cold sores' (simplex 1) and you can't catch 'cold sores' (simplex 1) from someone who has 'genital herpes' (simplex 2).

Now - you CAN get sores on your genitals from herpes simplex 1... And you CAN get sores on your mouth from herpes simplex 2... But as GG said - simplex 1 is not as bad. The lesions usually only last 1 week and don't cause too much of a problem (they are smaller and less severe). Herpes simplex 2 causes larger, more painful lesions that take up to 2 weeks to heal.


In terms of your fear of contracting the infection... Do what you see fit to 'avoid' infection but as I said before - you probably have herpes simplex 1 already [if you REALLY want to know - go to your doctor and ask for a test - they can test you to see if you have ever had the disease].... About 80% of all people do. So in order to avoid ALL contact with infected individuals you are going to have to avoid EVERYONE because you will not be able to tell who has it and who doesn't...

Simplex 1 is usually contracted in childhood - and the kid usually gets something similar to a 'flu' and will then also develop mouth ulcers [but just on a side note - they need not get mouth ulcers - infection can occur in the eye, on the skin and the fingers... so just because you didn't have a mouth ulcer or you DON'T get mouth ulcers now doesn't mean you do not have the virus]...

After the mouth ulcers/primary ulcer heals you might not have any further signs (most people) but, during this infection, the virus enters nearby nerves and travels up to live in nerve 'ganglions' (where nerve cells hang out). This is why 'herpes is for life' - because the bodies immune cells can't get to it. So you will STILL have the virus - it is just you don't get the sores.

Does that mean YOU'RE infective? And that you can transmit the disease??

NO!

People who are infected DO NOT shed the virus 100% of the time. It sits in the ganglion 'latent' - meaning it is INACTIVE and CAN NOT BE TRANSMITTED!! It is NOT replicating! It is only when the virus is REACTIVATED and it travels back down these nerves to the skin or mouth sites that the virus will replicate and can be spread (when it does this it usually causes a 'tingling' or 'burning' sensation - but it will not always go on to develop the sore).

Reactivation occurs for many reasons - and it depends on the person. Some people find that sunburn can trigger reactivation. Others find it is stress. Some females get them when they get their period... Most will get it when their immune system is 'stressed' like in other illnesses (eg: getting a cold or the flu) or more severe things like cancer or contracting AIDS.

Sure - Don't kiss anyone with obvious lesions or anyone who is experiencing that 'tingling' or 'burning' sensation... and don't have sexual contact with anyone who has these either... But there is no way you can completely isolate yourself from everyone who has the virus.

 

[GFR]

Not sh1t stirring at all, the idea that simplex 1 is the good herpes is just silly, and people should avoid both strains. Both these viruses share 50% of the same DNA. There conflicting reports on the spread of simplex 1 to the genitals becoming simplex 2....
The idea that it can't be transfered unless you are in or near a breakout is out dated. That is a very dangerous and ill informed opinion to spread.

 

[Emma-Leigh]

Not sh1t stirring at all, the idea that simplex 1 is the good herpes is just silly, and people should avoid both strains.

I never said that simplex 1 was a 'good herpes' - I said it was different and less severe than simplex 2. Both are not nice things to have and sensible precautions should be taken to avoid contracting or transmitting the disease....

The idea that it can't be transfered unless you are in or near a breakout is out dated. That is a very dangerous and ill informed opinion to spread.

I never said it was only when 'in or near' an outbreak that it was spread. I said it only replicates and is shed when the virus becomes REACTIVATED... but that at this stage the person MAY OR MAY NOT get an outbreak...

At other times - the virus is LATENT and at these times, those infected DO NOT shed.

 

[god hand]

Dont arginine have something to do with sex?

 

[GFR]

Stop sh*t stirring please.

You don't have your facts correct. Get the right information and then do what you want in your life... but don't just spread your ignorant opinion all over the board - it is not appreciated.


GENITAL HERPES AND ORAL HERPES ARE DIFFERENT
What you are doing is comparing the cold and the flu. Sure - some of the signs/symptoms may be similar - but they are not the same thing and one is a lot more severe than the other!

Herpes Simplex 1 (cold sores) is generally transmitted via saliva and primarily causes mouth ulcers (cold sores).

Herpes Simplex 2 (genital herpes) is a SEPARATE VIRUS STRAIN. It USUALLY results from independent transmission via sexual contact with people who have actively shedding genital lesions.

They used to be very easy to distinguish (based purely on the site of the infection)... However, due to oro-genital sexual practices, isolates of the simplex 1 virus are detected on the genitals and isolates of the herpes simplex 2 virus are detected in the mouth.

You can't catch 'genital herpes' (simplex 2) from someone who has 'cold sores' (simplex 1) and you can't catch 'cold sores' (simplex 1) from someone who has 'genital herpes' (simplex 2).

Now - you CAN get sores on your genitals from herpes simplex 1... And you CAN get sores on your mouth from herpes simplex 2... But as GG said - simplex 1 is not as bad. The lesions usually only last 1 week and don't cause too much of a problem (they are smaller and less severe). Herpes simplex 2 causes larger, more painful lesions that take up to 2 weeks to heal.
I have read 2 schools of thought on this

In terms of your fear of contracting the infection... Do what you see fit to 'avoid' infection but as I said before - you probably have herpes simplex 1 already [if you REALLY want to know - go to your doctor and ask for a test - they can test you to see if you have ever had the disease].... About 80% of all people do. So in order to avoid ALL contact with infected individuals you are going to have to avoid EVERYONE because you will not be able to tell who has it and who doesn't...
50-80%
Simplex 1 is usually contracted in childhood - and the kid usually gets something similar to a 'flu' and will then also develop mouth ulcers [but just on a side note - they need not get mouth ulcers - infection can occur in the eye, on the skin and the fingers... so just because you didn't have a mouth ulcer or you DON'T get mouth ulcers now doesn't mean you do not have the virus]...

After the mouth ulcers/primary ulcer heals you might not have any further signs (most people) but, during this infection, the virus enters nearby nerves and travels up to live in nerve 'ganglions' (where nerve cells hang out). This is why 'herpes is for life' - because the bodies immune cells can't get to it. So you will STILL have the virus - it is just you don't get the sores.

Does that mean YOU'RE infective? And that you can transmit the disease??

NO!
A better answer would be probably not
People who are infected DO NOT shed the virus 100% of the time. It sits in the ganglion 'latent' - meaning it is INACTIVE and CAN NOT BE TRANSMITTED!! It is NOT replicating! It is only when the virus is REACTIVATED and it travels back down these nerves to the skin or mouth sites that the virus will replicate and can be spread (when it does this it usually causes a 'tingling' or 'burning' sensation - but it will not always go on to develop the sore).
You have no way to be sure you are not shedding...there not always signs like tingling or burning when it's happening...!!!
Reactivation occurs for many reasons - and it depends on the person. Some people find that sunburn can trigger reactivation. Others find it is stress. Some females get them when they get their period... Most will get it when their immune system is 'stressed' like in other illnesses (eg: getting a cold or the flu) or more severe things like cancer or contracting AIDS.

Sure - Don't kiss anyone with obvious lesions or anyone who is experiencing that 'tingling' or 'burning' sensation... and don't have sexual contact with anyone who has these either... But there is no way you can completely isolate yourself from everyone who has the virus.

Just some things I find to be not 100% accurate, I would hate for someone to catch this terrible disease because of opinions that are not completly true

 

[BulkMeUp]

wut happens if I put my dingaling in someones mouth who has a coldsore? will I get the coldsore virus that will show up on my mouth or on my weiner?

Holy crap! Look who's back!

 

[BulkMeUp]

When I see a cold sore on a womans mouth I run......thats one opinion I wont test

Then you may want to keep running and never stop running for the rest of your life, coz even without symptoms, the virus can be shed and transmitted.

 

[GFR]

Then you may want to keep running and never stop running for the rest of your life, coz even without symptoms, the virus can be shed and transmitted.

Thats what the last 2 pages are about