Bad news guys.... Just a warning for all you Halo, Winny and DMZ lovers

[cad500]

Regardless...you made great gains. Drop the orals...and i agree on advanced cycle support / liv52

 

[dawun]

use both product the advanced cycle support and liv.52

 

[teezhay]

The only enjoyable aspect of a wedding is the food sampling process. Just pounds upon pounds of free cake slices, dessert plates, appetizers, delicious entrees ... and judging by your jerked to tan ratio in these pics (damn near 100:100), I'm guessing you skipped all that entirely. Sucks bro!

But seriously, you've clearly worked your ass off to achieve that physique, it must take some real discipline to withdraw from the show. But like a million other guys have said before, this is a marathon not a race. You made a really smart long-term decision in the interest of your health.

And with what you were able to accomplish with this cycle, imagine how shredded you'll be for your next show!

 

[fsoe]

great job ... thus far , I agree with above comment. Its the winni all the way , it destroys my profile and sends my cholesterol thru the roof

 

[JUSTRIGHT]

Brother my side is killing me. And I'm getting married in three weeks. I love this sport and want to do it for years not just now. And taking diuretics and killing my body the last few weeks for a trophy is not worth my health... I'm sticking strictly to 4 week oral runs and moderate doses with way better diet now. I'm trying to be a father one day and am a soldier and it's my job to take care of my health so I can take care of my family and country before personal needs... I guess it's just who I am. When I got back in this game I told myself I would never risk my health

looks like you have priorties in line bro. Thanks for the heads up as I am currently running halo and winny

 

[JUSTRIGHT]

Regardless...you made great gains. Drop the orals...and i agree on advanced cycle support / liv52

i run TUDCA when running orals no pain so far running halo and winny. Never mess with the lipids

 

[Standard Donkey]

i never run just one oral lol..


run methyltrienonlone + dbol, halo + var, currently drol + dbol.. of course im on 5 different liver supplements and shitloads of water

 

[tinyshrek]

Makes no diff what liver supps ur on or water to a certain extent, they will only delay the inevitable. Enzyme level show the deterioration of the liver. It takes time for it to heal. Rather you feel ok or not is irrelevant. You need breaks for your liver to regenerate and heal itself. The level of extent that orals have on the digestive track has yet to be determined as well as they ruine my stomach and I have killer heart burn... Cholesterol is so debatable and there are so many opinions... I pray for you SD sometimes, your like 22,23 and I'm 28. Just think about your organs in 5 years at the rate your goin... Just looking out as a friend

 

[Standard Donkey]

Makes no diff what liver supps ur on or water to a certain extent, they will only delay the inevitable. Enzyme level show the deterioration of the liver. It takes time for it to heal. Rather you feel ok or not is irrelevant. You need breaks for your liver to regenerate and heal itself. The level of extent that orals have on the digestive track has yet to be determined as well as they ruine my stomach and I have killer heart burn... Cholesterol is so debatable and there are so many opinions... I pray for you SD sometimes, your like 22,23 and I'm 28. Just think about your organs in 5 years at the rate your goin... Just looking out as a friend

thanks bro, after im done with the last couple packs i got from naps for free, im done with orals forever no joke.. just not worth it to me

 

[FordFan]

Go with your instincts. None of us know how YOU feel.

If it were me, I would drop the orals and rock on. Orals will kick your values ass.

 

[Lordsks]

Liv52 or Livercare for sure, never a fan of milk thristle. Liver values always have been good running it. Maybe I missed it but you never mentioned how much h20 a day you where taking in?

 

[plifter198]

im startin to reconsider orals myself...been on winni and now im going to get work done cuz im a lil paranoid something may be going on with kidneys or liver...plus they just dont seem all that...seems like gains are lost and theyre worse for your health. was reading pj brauns q&a and the guy doesnt even mess with orals much...theyre starting to seem unnecessary

 

[tinyshrek]

2-2 1/2 gallons water not including bcaa

 

[Thunder46]

how bad are liquid orals on the liver?

 

[tinyshrek]

Just as bad if ingested the same way

 

[Wanna_B_Bigger]

Hey tinyshrek, can I borrow your quads for a while?

 

[tinyshrek]

Thanks brother appreciate it.

 

[tinyshrek]

Here was a rear lat at 4 weeks. See why they call me tinyshrek

 

[World-Pharma.org]

you look great.

 

[tinyshrek]

Thanks WP