I really like the Swole, and I really like the V-12, but I don't feel the perpetual pump from either that I got from Plasma Expandor. I felt pumped all day on that stuff!
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I really like the Swole, and I really like the V-12, but I don't feel the perpetual pump from either that I got from Plasma Expandor. I felt pumped all day on that stuff!
I didn't have any success with Cell-Tech. Its over marketed garbage in my humble opinion
Thats not to say that all of the Muscle Tech products are, but Cell-Tech didn't work for me at all.
I have been using PBL effervessent creatine plus. It is cheaper than Cell-Tech and for more effective. At least for me it has been, I know everyone is diferent.
Thats not to say that all of the Muscle Tech products are, but Cell-Tech didn't work for me at all.
I have been using PBL effervessent creatine plus. It is cheaper than Cell-Tech and for more effective. At least for me it has been, I know everyone is diferent.
i've used generic pure creatine monohydrate and taken in with gatorade before and after workout and thought it gave a really nice increased pump feeling... however, I am torn between adding Swole V2 or VPX plasma expandor to my cart.... ARgH!!! decisions, decisions...
Balla,
I definately agree with you. I blend in a nice bananna in every glass of protein and it makes a world of difference....Good stuff.
Then I use 5 grams of creatine monohydrate powder 30 minutes before workout and 5 after workout. I heard that the other forms of creatine like liquid is just a waste of your money. The powder is very cheap. Seems to work pretty well.
I definately agree with you. I blend in a nice bananna in every glass of protein and it makes a world of difference....Good stuff.
Then I use 5 grams of creatine monohydrate powder 30 minutes before workout and 5 after workout. I heard that the other forms of creatine like liquid is just a waste of your money. The powder is very cheap. Seems to work pretty well.
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Notric? sounds like what I say when my exgirlfriend is trying to get in my apartment...
Have I been missing something? The comments from the threads I have been reading have stated that people are worshiping Swole V2 Creatine. Their stating that it is the best and they would not use anything else. Maybe this is the new version your talking about.
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I've been using Phosphagen mixed with maltodextrin. The Phosphagen costs me $11.00 online for 100 servings. The maltodextrin I get from a store that sells products for brewing beer at home for just about nothing. Works awesome for me. Great strength gains, recuperation, and not hard on the wallet
Yeah older versions alot of people claimed that they got really lightheaded and had headaches when taking it yet they still got good gains. Now i believe that they improved on it. I have yet to hear any such side effects from the new version.
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I've never had problem using straight Prolab creatine powder mixed with 50g whey isolates and 50g dextrose... That's my transport of choice.
You didn't mention VITARGO-CGL!
It's right up there with the best and provides excellent results!
I would say Swole-Vitargo-CGL share the tophonors.
It's right up there with the best and provides excellent results!
I would say Swole-Vitargo-CGL share the tophonors.
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Iver tried,
-Swole (original)-unimpressed
-Plasma Expandor-good results, tastes like ass though
-V12-pretty good results
-Vitargo-Easier on stomach than dextrose, good with insulin(exo), mixes horribly
I'm going to give Kreatine Ultra by BSL a try soon
-Swole (original)-unimpressed
-Plasma Expandor-good results, tastes like ass though
-V12-pretty good results
-Vitargo-Easier on stomach than dextrose, good with insulin(exo), mixes horribly
I'm going to give Kreatine Ultra by BSL a try soon
When was the last time you tasted ass prolangtum? 
IS THIS DESIGNED BY NASA SCIENTISTS OR WHAT?
I'VE USED THIS THING AND IT'S EQUAL IN TERMS OF RESULTS WITH V-12, SWOLE & VITARGO-CGL.
I'VE USED THIS THING AND IT'S EQUAL IN TERMS OF RESULTS WITH V-12, SWOLE & VITARGO-CGL.
I felt pumped all day on that stuff!
firestorm
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Test, I take it you don't like Gopro very much do you? Man he is stating an opinion. Lighten up bro. Nobody is flaming you for stating yours. I'll be honest with everyone,, the best pumps I've felt to date still came from the good old original no hype Pure Creatine Monohydrate powder from GNC mixed with Welches Grape juice. And that is MY opinion. I like the Swole V.2 because of the taste but my pumps haven't been any better then with the plain Creatine.
I share the same opinion FS.
Why waste your money, Old fashioned creatine monohydrate powder seems to work well.
Why waste your money, Old fashioned creatine monohydrate powder seems to work well.
firestorm
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yes it does but I must also note that I have been using the swole V.2 anyway because through 1fast400 it isn't expensive and tastes really good.
Cool. I never offend Goporo or any other guy. Honestly, I never have to. Your opinion is 100% Real and for SURE.
Plasma Expendor is #1 for Gopro because GroPro works for him and with all honesty, he's correct. He must be loyal to his company.
I think it would be better for Gropro if he didnt disclose the fact that he works for vpx. this way everyone would have taken his opinions honestly. but as of now, the case his, there's a element of suspiscion about every review on any VPX product.
"I WAS JUST CURIOUS TO KNOW that What makes Palsma Expender that much superior to all!!" The way gopro expresses his opinion on just about any VPX product makes you wonder sometime or other....Is this stuff that advanced!! Untouchable!!
Peace and Respect to you all brothers!
Plasma Expendor is #1 for Gopro because GroPro works for him and with all honesty, he's correct. He must be loyal to his company.
I think it would be better for Gropro if he didnt disclose the fact that he works for vpx. this way everyone would have taken his opinions honestly. but as of now, the case his, there's a element of suspiscion about every review on any VPX product.
"I WAS JUST CURIOUS TO KNOW that What makes Palsma Expender that much superior to all!!" The way gopro expresses his opinion on just about any VPX product makes you wonder sometime or other....Is this stuff that advanced!! Untouchable!!
Peace and Respect to you all brothers!
firestorm
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OK Test point well taken and I see where your coming from. I'm sure to an extent what your saying is true. GOPRO does think very highly of VPX products and he does promote them when possible but I don't think that is a bad thing. I think the fact that he tells people that he works for VPX prooves that he is honest and has no hidden agendas or trying to be sneaky.
I'll give you a very very good example, SYNTRAX got ahold of some of us members here in PMs asking if we/I would try some free samples and to post on them. I agreed but unlike others here I made it known when I commented on the SWOLE V.2 that it was given to me FREE I did so again with ISOMATRIX RELOADED. It turned out that I liked both products but I MUST again be honest, if I didn't I would have done 1 of 2 things. 1, not post anything so not to show disrespect to the company or 2. say I didnt' see much from them or they tasted like crap. I think GP thinks and acts similar to myself in that department. He has stated that certain VPX products tasted like crap before and has also come clean when asked about certain products that he never tried them so couldn't really comment. I believe in my heart that GOPRO tells it like it is. I don't think he will come out and say Oh our new Prohormone really sucks. I actually lost size on it! but I believe if it were not optimimal he just would not comment on it.
(((I know I'm rambling on a bit but its 7am and I've been up since 11am yesterday. I'm tired)))))
Last little note Test. The only thing regarding your post that drew my attention to it was the CAPS. when using caps it tends to give off the impression to the readers that your yelling and personnally I think the post could have been worded a little less harsh. I've seen other posts of yours and they are very well written so I know you have the ability to state a point and to do so in a positive and nice manner. Anyway I better shutup now before I put you to sleep Too. Damn Im tired. Sorry for the extensive reading. Peace
I'll give you a very very good example, SYNTRAX got ahold of some of us members here in PMs asking if we/I would try some free samples and to post on them. I agreed but unlike others here I made it known when I commented on the SWOLE V.2 that it was given to me FREE I did so again with ISOMATRIX RELOADED. It turned out that I liked both products but I MUST again be honest, if I didn't I would have done 1 of 2 things. 1, not post anything so not to show disrespect to the company or 2. say I didnt' see much from them or they tasted like crap. I think GP thinks and acts similar to myself in that department. He has stated that certain VPX products tasted like crap before and has also come clean when asked about certain products that he never tried them so couldn't really comment. I believe in my heart that GOPRO tells it like it is. I don't think he will come out and say Oh our new Prohormone really sucks. I actually lost size on it! but I believe if it were not optimimal he just would not comment on it.
(((I know I'm rambling on a bit but its 7am and I've been up since 11am yesterday. I'm tired)))))
Last little note Test. The only thing regarding your post that drew my attention to it was the CAPS. when using caps it tends to give off the impression to the readers that your yelling and personnally I think the post could have been worded a little less harsh. I've seen other posts of yours and they are very well written so I know you have the ability to state a point and to do so in a positive and nice manner. Anyway I better shutup now before I put you to sleep Too. Damn Im tired. Sorry for the extensive reading. Peace
Well said firestrom. I appreciate your comments.
I surely do enjoy your reading even it is targeted at me.
But as I said earlier, "EVERYTHING IS A MATTER OF OPINION"
BTW, what I actually remarked previously about Plasma Expandor was ''just as good as SWOLE and other stuff" Nothing extraordinary. In no way, I attacked this product.
Anyway never mind my opinion! I'm here to learn something from you guys.
I surely do enjoy your reading even it is targeted at me.
But as I said earlier, "EVERYTHING IS A MATTER OF OPINION"
BTW, what I actually remarked previously about Plasma Expandor was ''just as good as SWOLE and other stuff" Nothing extraordinary. In no way, I attacked this product.
Anyway never mind my opinion! I'm here to learn something from you guys.
I work for VPX for one reason. I believe very highly in their products. I have stated this before but it warrants restating here: I was offered jobs with 2 other supplement companies before VPX, but although the other offers were quite good, I refused to go to work for a company whose products I did not believe in. I had been using VPX products for several years before taking this job, on myself and with a large personal training clientele. I sold a ton of VPX at my gym. Its very simple. I think that they have the best OVERALL line of prducts in the industry. Even if I left this job, I would continue to promote their products. End of story.
Also, if you have read my posts over the years you would see that I readily praise other companies as well...Syntrax, Avant, AST, Dorian, Muscle Link, Pro Lab, SAN, etc.
In the case of Plasma Expandor, this product contains ingredients that the other creatine transports do not. I really like SAN v-12 and Syntrax Swole, but I started a thread about PE long before I worked at VPX and sang its praises back then. The stuff makes me feel pumped all day and that is something that I did not get with any other product.
(By the way...PE II is coming soon)
Also, if you have read my posts over the years you would see that I readily praise other companies as well...Syntrax, Avant, AST, Dorian, Muscle Link, Pro Lab, SAN, etc.
In the case of Plasma Expandor, this product contains ingredients that the other creatine transports do not. I really like SAN v-12 and Syntrax Swole, but I started a thread about PE long before I worked at VPX and sang its praises back then. The stuff makes me feel pumped all day and that is something that I did not get with any other product.
(By the way...PE II is coming soon)
VPX SUCKS!!!! Just kiddin gopro 
firestorm
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LOL ("Even if it is targeted at me") that was funny. Seriously though I'm sorry you feel that way. I am actually ready to attack anyone my man but I just keep catching your posts 1st!!! hahaha
But just so you don't feel I'm showing prejudice towards you I will attack Gopro now.
Gopro, I have never actually seen you in person but have to go by what others here say you look like...all buffed and looking good but personnally I think you paid these people to say these things about you. I have a feeling your a 5"2' mexican with bad teeth and that you really DO NOT work for VPX but a landscape company. I may be wrong but this is just my opinion. Your advice in training really suks as well does VPX product. I prefer K Mart brand supplements because they are much cheaper and mixed right in the K Mart Employee lunch room so I know it's real. So anyway essa get a real job and start working out Holmes.
Fire hahahahahahaha
Thats cool.
Surely, you know how to keep this board ticking! Still I enjoy your say!
Surely, you know how to keep this board ticking! Still I enjoy your say!
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Funny how posts take these weird turns and end up in the middle of nowhere.
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Like to keep the threads Light and friendly Camaro.
I just purchased Plasma Expandor recently...However, I am used to taking straight Creatine, basically with no caloric content...Since I am also in the process of gradually raising my caloric count (+100 Cals every week or two to feed my awakening metabolism), I don't want to shock my body with 328 Cals (two servings as directed) right off the bat...Should I use one serving to start post workout, and gradually add the pre serving?...Or is the pre even necessary?...VPX also suggests to stack with Creaject, does that seem necessary? Thanks...
