Best Fat Burner...Opinions?

[the_predator]

I want to know what you guys feel is the best fat burner out there. I have used Clen with mixed results in the past but have recently thought about dabbling with T3/T4. Not sure yet though. I have alot more research to do on T3/T4. Any and all thoughts are appreciated and thank you in advance.

 

[jitbjake88]

No need to use t4. T3 while cut some fat. T4 is only used for hypothyroidism.

 

[heartofalion]

Test Prop, Tren Ace, EC or NYC and t3. Watch your blood pressure!

 

[FordFan]

Honestly......meth. I'm sure that's not the answer you're looking for.

 

[Pittsburgh63]

CEC stacks work great...its t3, ephedrine and caffiene.

 

[KILLEROFSAINTS]

cardio


i dont do it either

 

[Standard Donkey]

diet, t3 ("everything burner" though), clen, ephedrine

 

[the_predator]

Thanks for the info and comments guys. KOS you crack me up. I love ya man. I have watched your progression over time, and for a guy that doesn't do cardio you have come a long ways. SD...will the T3("everything burner") cut into muscle really bad?

 

[TrojanMan60563]

Eat less calories and increase cardio. I would play with thyroid hormones.

 

[heckler7]

jumprope is the best bro, trust me. its tough to do 10 minutes straight

 

[Digitalash]

diet/cardio/tren


stims don't agree with me and are best for appetite suppresion really imo


maybe try GH or some peptides too

 

[jitbjake88]

Thanks for the info and comments guys. KOS you crack me up. I love ya man. I have watched your progression over time, and for a guy that doesn't do cardio you have come a long ways. SD...will the T3("everything burner") cut into muscle really bad?

If using it without test, yes. While in test its not to bad.
I run it at 50mcg and it works wonders.

 

[Goodskie]

If using it without test, yes. While in test its not to bad.
I run it at 50mcg and it works wonders.

Well 50mcgs mp t3 will eat your muscle on high test and high tren

no more t3 for me

 

[jay_steel]

I had a fat burner that was made with clen caffeine and effedrine that shit was fucking nuts.

 

[tbird2]

DNP
accept no substitutes

 

[Jimmyinkedup]

Well 50mcgs mp t3 will eat your muscle on high test and high tren

no more t3 for me

Really? I ran it cruising on 225test and 150 deca. t3 at 50mcg and i actually recomped a bit . The fat loss was amazing. Im honestly surprised you experienced that effect with high test and tren.I hadnt done t3 in years and it worked wonders for me.

 

[Goodskie]

Really? I ran it cruising on 225test and 150 deca. t3 at 50mcg and i actually recomped a bit . The fat loss was amazing. Im honestly surprised you experienced that effect with high test and tren.I hadnt done t3 in years and it worked wonders for me.

Well I was dieting and doing cardio too. Maybe it's better for recomping than cutting

50mgs of mp t3 > 150mcgs chem one t3

 

[Jimmyinkedup]

Well I was dieting and doing cardio too. Maybe it's better for recomping than cutting

50mgs of mp t3 > 150mcgs chem one t3

yeah im not a big chem one fan myself. i definitely wouldn't run t3 without some form of anabolic assistance that's for sure.

 

[the_predator]

How long were you guys running the T3 for?

 

[overburdened]

Thanks for the info and comments guys. KOS you crack me up. I love ya man. I have watched your progression over time, and for a guy that doesn't do cardio you have come a long ways. SD...will the T3("everything burner") cut into muscle really bad?

In all reality bro, It's in your diet... but, with your diet locked down, ECA is excellent and has a low side effect profile(compared to clen, etc...) Airsealed2 swears by DNP, you may want to ask him about how to use it correctly.... t3 has possibility of eating away at muscle if you are not on enough anabolics.. it does work well, but you will have to have a decent cycle with it.. and take it correctly.. you MUST taper the t3!!!

 

[the_predator]

^Thanks OB, ECA is a good one I have tried in the past too. I guess another option I have to start researching is DNP. I'm not sure I have the knowledge yet to mess with T3. Plus, I would really hate to start losing/cutting into my muscle with it used incorrectly. Once again thanks to all that have posted.

 

[TrojanMan60563]

^Thanks OB, ECA is a good one I have tried in the past too. I guess another option I have to start researching is DNP. I'm not sure I have the knowledge yet to mess with T3. Plus, I would really hate to start losing/cutting into my muscle with it used incorrectly. Once again thanks to all that have posted.

Well if the risk of burning muscle scares you away from T3. I hope the risk of cooking yourself to death scares you away from DNP.

 

[seyone]

I have always like clen with some caffeine thrown in.. I tolerate stims pretty well. T3 is probably great , but I'm not ready to play with thyroid hormones

 

[the_predator]

Thanks Trojanman! As I said before, I have a lot of research and reading to do.

 

[teezhay]

T3 accelerates protein degradation at a greater rate than protein synthesis, which will prove highly catabolic. I wouldn't use it even in tandem with AAS.

Edit: As a recommendation, I'd stack ephedrine and caffeine with clenbuterol, along with either GH or peptides. Avoid carbohydrates for a couple hours after administering the peptides/GH.

 

[overburdened]

yeah im not a big chem one fan myself. i definitely wouldn't run t3 without some form of anabolic assistance that's for sure.

Due to the nature of T3, I would be VERY skeptical using ANY research chem site... human grade, pharmaceutical t3 is cheap, and not hard to get your hands on! T3 is something that a LITTLE too much can mean disaster!!!! And some people are just bound to take more(if they are using a RC site for it... thinking it is underdosed) if they aren't seeing the results they think they should.... This type of thing is not good at all, and can make you end up in the hospital!

If you are going to use T3, take the time to get pharma T3(tablets), cytomel is common name for it.... If you can't get pharma grade, I wouldn't use it!

also, with T3 it is IMPERATIVE that you taper off of it!!! you can end up causing thyroid storm if you just stop taking it(this is where your body releases WAY too much Thyroid hormone(t4 and t3), and is very dangerous to your health!)

There is no substitute for diet and cardio, but if you aren't seeing the results you want, or you are prepping for a comp, whatever.. and you need to get to LOW bf%, you will need a fat burner of some sort.... ECA is great for this, and you can add a little T3(as long as you have enough anabolics in your body) to help it along.... I wouldn't go overboard with the thyroid hormones(t3 or t4) simply because you have to depend on your thyroid the rest of your life.. and you really don't want to risk screwing it up!

 

[overburdened]

^Thanks OB, ECA is a good one I have tried in the past too. I guess another option I have to start researching is DNP. I'm not sure I have the knowledge yet to mess with T3. Plus, I would really hate to start losing/cutting into my muscle with it used incorrectly. Once again thanks to all that have posted.

If you are thinking of using DNP, PM airsealed, or email him... he is HIGHLY knowledgeable with DNP, and could give you some GREAT pointers!!!

 

[KILLEROFSAINTS]

Thanks for the info and comments guys. KOS you crack me up. I love ya man. I have watched your progression over time, and for a guy that doesn't do cardio you have come a long ways. SD...will the T3("everything burner") cut into muscle really bad?

thanx

i have officially lost 75 plus pounds as of yesterday

 

[TrojanMan60563]

Thanks Trojanman! As I said before, I have a lot of research and reading to do.

You're welcome. DNP is not worth the risk. I know some people use it and you can drop insane amounts of fat with it. However my understanding is you only take too much DNP once! As far as I know there is no way to reverse what you've done. So even if you go to the ER they can't do anything to stop what it is happening to you. There is no drug or cold bath that will stop a DNP overdose.

 

[the_predator]

Once again thank you for all that posted. Now that you guys pretty much scared the shit out of me with T3 and DNP info(and some reading I did on my own), I believe I will stick with ECA and Clen. I guess it might be time for more cardio. I do cardio 4 times a week as a HIIT program because I don't have time before I go to work. I usually go for about 20 mins. I run stairs, do 60/120 sprints, and do intervals on the elliptical. I need to work harder on my diet also. Ok, enough of my bullshit...I just need to get to it.