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Check it out Homey, All due respect but , gear will not increase your punching power. Proper technique and put'n in work in the gym is what gives you power. I don't know if are "in the game" or just for a hobby, but testing is not a joke no more. If you step to the darkside be careful bout what you take or you will show POSITIVE !!! Try turning your punches over and project past the point of inpact. Spend more time on the big bag. Be sure to involve your waist and legs in your punches ( arm punches ain't shit Homey) .
As far as aggression and finding it in gear ??? A old couple say'ns comes to mind
1. It's not the dogg in the fight, it's the fight in the dogg.
2.Fighters are born , not made ( Thats some real shit )
BTW Speed = Power Homey !. At the end of the day it comes down to this : Skill don't come in a shot or a pill.
Good luck whichever way you go wit it !
Peace and Love
Mik
Overly aggressive fighters fight stupidly, throwing themselves into their opponent and burning themselves out or getting beaten down.
Fight to your abilities, if you want a challenge then try fighting overly aggressively. I've taken some hits, if they don't take you down then maybe your new strategy will pay off, if not, then simply fight to your abilities period.
If you need more aggression I don't think you belong in the ring, either you fight or you don't. Are you fighting guys two weight classes above you or what? If you aren't swinging you have self doubt problems, not lack of steroids problems.
Fight to your abilities, if you want a challenge then try fighting overly aggressively. I've taken some hits, if they don't take you down then maybe your new strategy will pay off, if not, then simply fight to your abilities period.
If you need more aggression I don't think you belong in the ring, either you fight or you don't. Are you fighting guys two weight classes above you or what? If you aren't swinging you have self doubt problems, not lack of steroids problems.
well its not that i dont swing or get in the mood when i box..... i love to just get in there an duke it out but some times my focus on what i need to do isnt there..... you know what i mean! i have good power so my coach tells me but like im still kinda young in it so i loose sight of what i need to do and what i want to do hahaha i want to just knock em out but then im supposed to box... id love to me more dominat and agressive when i box so im the one going forwar in the match but hey practice makes perfect an i still have a long way to go..... onthe bright side if i can pull through... the gym that im going to has had three or four olympic boxers come out of there! ( most recent Vincente escabedo)
I have to disagree with that. If you had two boxers of equal ability and one started juicing and gained strength you don't think he would gain punching power over the other? There is a reason why steroids are used in almost every sport ranging from cycling, sprinting, football, baseball, etc. they make an athlete stronger, faster, they recuperate quicker, in short they will enhance any athlete's abilities and give them a 10-20% edge (an estimate) over a natural athlete.
more striking power build your tris, lats, shoulders. aggression comes with drive. if you want more drive in the ring then get a goal. once you know what you are after your mental focus will go up use every punch you take as a catalyst to fight harder, faster, and stronger.
Much respect Prince, but I'm standing on what I said for the reasons that you mentioned.
I know just alil bit bout the game,I've seen a few fights and seen the inside of a gym a couple of times, known guys that juice and those that don't. All the stats you post are cool, but punching hard is a relative term.Punching hard is cool but punching sharp is DANGEROUS flat out ! Strength is not power. It's guys that just stupid strong, punch like lil bitches. Strength is within, power is generated. A juiced up cat can get an edge in training due the muscle recuperation as you stated, but that does not translate into KO power. I've seen 135lb fighters punching sharper ( which really means harder) than 168 lb fighters on juice with my own eyes.
Seen a gang of fighters juiced up,all supposed big bangers, laid on their back, they did not have more speed or endurence just more bruises and lumps. As a matter of fact I've noted that it could be that what ever a fighter may gain in strength, he pays for by coming up short in a 10 round endurance fight ( unless it was Tren) ha ha. But everyone is different and I'm sure there are cats out there that may find that benefit. Do I believe that juice will give you an edge ? ABSOLUTLY, but not in power punching, just in more intense and longer training sessions which will get you chance to develop better tech. which may lead to more power. For the record ,just since we a couple of Homies kick'n tha game,Power is mad cool, but it's not at the top on tha list in becoming a great fighter. Been a lot of great fighters that did not have crushing power just punched sharp enough to take your head off . If you need an example Tommy Hearns comes to mind , kicked ass in Kronk gym like he was drinking Kool Aid, and a bunch of juiced up cats left their pride and half of that ass in there with him , and I'm talking dudes 30 lbs heavier and Sus 250 dripping outta their ass. How do I know this ? I WATCHED IT HAPPEN.
Let's roll wit your example , 2 cats same hook up except the juice, to my knowledge of the sport (which may not be as extensive as yours granted), the cleaner ,sharper puncher is busting skulls. I just know what I've seen , could be different in other places. But what do I know
I'm gonna step outta this and let the more experienced players kick knowledge.Always a pleasure Prince my brotha
Peace and Love
Mik
Right, but I am saying that two fighters equal in all aspects, hell lets use identical twins for this example, one starts juicing and one does not, you don't think the one juicing will have an edge in regards to strength, punching power, endurance, etc.? I do not see how you could come to any other conclusion. It's been proven over and over in all sports how effective they are, and I am not just talking about muscle size and strength.
i dont disagree with what you are saying prince but my big reason for steering this guy away is his age. he is only 21 spending more time in the gym will help him more in the long run. if he juices now he could do more damadge due to the fact his body is still most likely producing its own test at good levels. i would say wait a few years and see were you go on your own.
oh i am sorry i missunderstood your statement. i fully agree that the benefits of taking steroids would make a already good and determined fighter better.
Twins , alright. lets talk twins. Tony & Tommy Ayla. Same weight,same height, same everything. Tony Juiced Tommy did not.
124 lbs
Tony 47-5- 2 , 25 KO's
Tommy 42-3-0 36 KO's
The Leha Brothers, Jesse ( James) Leha & Jose Leha
135 lbs
Jose Leha 27 -4-1 ,10 KOs Juiced
Jesse Leha 39 - 2 -1 ,28 KO's
I truly understand what you are kick'n and why. Makes sense up to a point. But as I said I know what I know. I did'nt get this info from some reports, or forum, or website stats, and I'll go out on a limb here and say that I could kick this fight game with anyone in the world and know what I'm talking about not through what I heard , but what I've seen AND DONE with some of the best in the game PEROID. And thats not saying that you don't know, thats why when you said twins that even made it plainer.
You may also have noticed lately how many guys come up positive, and still leave with an L on their record. It ain't the same as running , cycling, lifting, or none of that. Skill is what leads to sharp punching. And once again Power Punching is a relative term used way too much by those who perhaps don't have true fight experience. Holyfield was geared to his ears ( and living that power punching bullshit) when a squeaky clean Riddick Bowe WAXED HIS ASS.
Tyson juiced up ( for years) King of the so called power punch, ran into a sharp punch'n BUM named Buster Douglas. Ron Lyle juiced and could punch like a truck got beamed up by Foreman and Ernie Shavers , both clean.You know the rest. Same thing a clean Lenox Lewis did. I'm standing firm on two guys exact equals , one on juice and one with perfect punching tech. , The sharper puncher wins. If they both are sharp punchers then , it comes down to who gets caught first. AND THAT AIN"T GOT NOTHING TO DO WITH JUICE.Unless someone has actually been in the ring for a while , it's kinda hard to understand. As I said before that won't make you a better fighter.Thats real, THE END.
Homey , I respect your opinions and don't ever think anything other than that. But we in my world now ! I'm not a bodybuilder, I'm a body breaker ha ha ha.
OK , I just kicked the facts, believe what works for you, it's all good. Now I'm done with this topic , y'all play nice. Much Respect and big Props.
Peace and love
Mik
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mikhal i get what you are saying completely mma, boxing, any full contact fighting sport requieres peak physical condition, skill, and knowledge. the general consensus is just basicaly that if you took a good, or great fighter kicked some test his way his hitting power would go up. i agree take any drug you want get as big as you want if you aint got talent you will get laid out.
Mikhal whats up Bro? How you been?
Given what I know and what I don't I would have to go with Mikhal on fighting history etc..
Going off just logic if you take a natural guy and juice him up I can't help but think you would only gain from it...but I am sure there are clean fighters making juiced guys look bad on the daily.
Given what I know and what I don't I would have to go with Mikhal on fighting history etc..
Going off just logic if you take a natural guy and juice him up I can't help but think you would only gain from it...but I am sure there are clean fighters making juiced guys look bad on the daily.
wow info that i do need and every bit of it guys thanks, so just to throw it out there im not loking to juice till i have hit a wall in my boxing. But its been on my mind for a while since 18 when i was strength traing but ive been boxing/ ju jistu off an on since and i get tons better every time i stay comitted till i have unfortunatly for some reason have to work nights instead of days but now its days and training in nights so im progessing every day boxing mon wends frid and lifting tues and thurs and somting sat.... wanna here somthing gay though... so my coach has tought like two or three olympic boxers(one of em vincente escobedo off of fight night round three lighweight) and the fucker wont even let me sparr yet!!!!! im pissed cuz a my last sparring partner in Wa, was ranked 5th in nation in amatures and kicked my ass everyday hahahahaha.. the only people close to him who is a 13 year old(who might i add took nationals in 132lbs last year and is sparring someone a year younger than me hahahahaha(20) ) that would honestly be a pride killer lol. but any who wh wont even let me sparr cuz he told me he doesnt want me to get worked by some kid (my weight but captin of UCdavis boxing team) and quite!?!?!?!?!?! oim like what the fuck dude i dont care just let my swing for the fvence for a couple rounds and let me know my limits again and get hit again lol. But what ever lol not like im in any place to tell him what to do with me.. but seriously all this talk made me ask him today and friday but no go both times 
An effective way of increasing your power is to do explosive reps when you train with weights, stuff like power benching, clean and jerks and doing rack presses. The main focus should be on the positive part of the movement ie slow negative then pause at the bottom then power up. Ive noticed boxers using this method when training in the gym. Good luck bud.
Rocky 4! IN the movie, rocky wins, of course! In real life...come on!!! you really think a juiced up russian was going to lose to a 5'10 italian stallion??? Anyway thats as far as my credentials go, lol!!! Just trying to lighten up the thread! Good luck!
Okay, I've given you a topic- now talk amongst yourselves.
Okay, I've given you a topic- now talk amongst yourselves.
wow, that is quite unbelievable that you know of every boxer that juiced and was clean, amazing that you could possess such knowledge, almost impossible.
Yeah, pretty impressive huh ?
Truth is stranger than fiction. Ask some of the Old School Homies around here bout me player. You'd be surprised. I know a tiny bit bout the game, juuuuuuuuuust a lil !BTW before you start clown'n me
I never at ANY point claimed to know every fighter that has juiced, but since you wanna go there I can safely say I might know70% of em.If you wanna get too real, I'll even go here,90% of the ones you read about and watch on TV............. are my Homies. How bout that for unbelievable
PS You don't have to cut into me on the DL ,I feel you, but don't doubt just ask. I got too much respect for you ,my homies here on this board and most importantly myself to play myself on some bullshit, you feel'n me.
Don't hate big Homey, it's all love.
Peace and love
Mik
Matter of fact check your PM, if you still got questions after that , I don't know what to tell you Homey.
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ouch that was cold prince lol.
I see it as 2 guys getting a laugh, no harm done, no drama. Hell , I thought it was funny too !
Nothing 2 grown men can't do and laugh about Homey, lil Ike Turnerish, but not cold
Peace and Love
Mik
TrojanMan, and Big PreMier !!!!! Whats good Homies ! Hope all is well with both of you fellas ! It's really good to hear from y'all. Call a brotha sometime, DAMN !!
Peace, Love and respect to you both from the heart Homies.
Mik
Peace, Love and respect to you both from the heart Homies.
Mik
