Watching King Kong right now. Kong's fight scenes and the bugs attacking the crew ... all in Dolby THX were stunning.
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Yes King Kong was excellent in HD. I like baseball in HD. I watched Cage fighting for the first time in HD. Everything is great in HD. Even skateboarding looked really cool.
the ending ... 
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Dolby Digital is a audio format.
THX refers to a set of audio and video standards.
just FYI
Is this from Sat HD or did you pick up HD-DVD?
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I'm the same way, I don't find it night and day over a well produced DVD. It's better but not the way DVD was better than VHS. Nothing has taken that leap.
Hey DD. You need a hi def TV set and a HD box from your cable or satellite provider to see hi definition. You can get some HD programming over the air also, but you still need a HDTV. There is a huge difference between standard analog and 1080i hi def. The absolute best is 1080p which isn't being broadcast yet. You can get that with HD DVD, BluRay or a good upconverting DVD Player (Oppo comes to mind).
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You need both the HD TV and your cable provider to broadcast in HD, otherwise your expensive HDTV is all for not.
I love watching sports on HD, that is where you can see the most diff. IMO.
I love watching sports on HD, that is where you can see the most diff. IMO.
I just watched X-Men: The Last Stand on blue-ray last night and it looked pretty amazing. The biggest difference regarding the whole hi-def thing was when I hooked my PS3 up to my hd tv...WOW. Looks fucking amazing.
Damn format wars.
I have an HD-DVD drive with my 360, but am drooling to own X-men in HD. Not to mention Spider-Man 1,2 &3 releasing on Blu Ray this year.
It looked pretty bad ass. What is the main difference between HD-DVD and Blu-Ray? All I know is Blu-Ray can hold more data.
Watching a movie, there's really not much difference. Blu Ray has a larger capacity, but costs more. I just hate format wars... the consumer always loses. If the Blu Ray starts running away with it, I'd get a PS3... I'm waiting though. I was willing to gamble 200 bucks for HD-DVD, but 600+ is a lot of money.
HD is amazing especially while playing video games. The extra resolution is where it's at and put 5.1 surround on top of that and it's a complete experience. Now if only I could stop spending money on my damn entertainment set-up.
I've only had a hi def setup for about 2 months now. Awesome as hell. I'm holding out on the Blue Ray/HD DVDs wars. I think the best bet is to get a upconverting DVD. You can get a giant killer Oppo player ( http://www.oppodigital.com/ ), for around $200. That's what I am probably going to go with.
For now NFL games broadcast on NFLnet (when done in HD), Discovery HD, MHD, TNT HD, all look spectacular over Comcast HD.
Just yesterday, I was watching the Pebble Beach Pro/Am golf tournament on CBS.... holy crap, deep color saturation, crisp detail, every blade of grass defined... Plus I did a 5.1 surround sound system (Onyko 504 A/V receiver, Velodyne CHT Front Rows, center channel and rear surrounds, Bic H100 subwoofer) for under $700, it sounds great.
For now NFL games broadcast on NFLnet (when done in HD), Discovery HD, MHD, TNT HD, all look spectacular over Comcast HD.
Just yesterday, I was watching the Pebble Beach Pro/Am golf tournament on CBS.... holy crap, deep color saturation, crisp detail, every blade of grass defined... Plus I did a 5.1 surround sound system (Onyko 504 A/V receiver, Velodyne CHT Front Rows, center channel and rear surrounds, Bic H100 subwoofer) for under $700, it sounds great.
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During the Superbowl, the person's house I was at had HD, HD-TV, and a DVR. It was clear, but then the DVR fucked up so we had to switch to regular tv and it was so blurry. The host implored that it was cuz I wasnt used to HDTV and that I expected it to be that clear on regular TV.
I honestly have to say that it looked like a bad TV reception and not just a regular signal. I never remembered seeing a scoreboard that blurry, at least not at my house.
I honestly have to say that it looked like a bad TV reception and not just a regular signal. I never remembered seeing a scoreboard that blurry, at least not at my house.
DV-981HDDV-981HDDV-981HD1080p Up-Converting Universal DVD Player (HDMI) Looks good
I bet no one can visibly tell the difference between blu-ray, hd-dvd, and the higher end upconversion players.
Sho HD off of cable. My current abode doesn't have a good look at a sat service provider for sat hd ...Dolby Digital is a audio format.
THX refers to a set of audio and video standards.
just FYI
Is this from Sat HD or did you pick up HD-DVD?
Definitely. The players that upconvert are merely taking a signal that is at 480i and adding some garbage and outputting it at 1080i or p. Not to mention the audio enhancements you get with blu-ray and hd-dvd.
I am to the point where I don't even look at non hd channels now ... it's that bad here.
I like seeing the poors on an actor's face. I like to watch Surface in high def ... and this show is not a visually intense show.
I like seeing the poors on an actor's face. I like to watch Surface in high def ... and this show is not a visually intense show.
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I sell TVs as a part time job and let me tell you that you can definately tell. Blue-ray is a far better format that HD DVD. HD DVD only does 1080i, Blue-ray does full 1080p. If you want a super sweet HD setup heres what you need:
1080p HDTV(I prefer LCDs)
Blue-ray player- blue-ray also upconverts regular DVDs into HD
Denon or Onkyo HDMI switching reciever (sony's are shitty)
KEF speaker and subwoofer system
Direct TV HD (They're suppose to be coming out with like 100 HD channels in the next year or so)
And of course HDMI cables to connect blue-ray player and to connect hd sat box. FYI, HDMI cables were not made to transfer SD signals, run an extra set of component cables from your sat box as well to make sure SD signals look as best as possible, but when you want to watch something in HD switch back to HDMI. And go for the cheapest HDMI cable you can find. If a salesman tries to sell you monster tell them no and no again when they try to force them on you, and they will. As long as the cable can carry a digital signal its going to work all the same.
Any more questions PM me.
Killer contribution ... thanks for the info
This is incorrect: HD-DVD certainly does full 1080p as well.
I'd also be weary of DirecTV's HD. They may have a lot of channels, but it comes at a price:
http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/01/11/the-engadget-hd-interview-directvs-cto-re-hd-lite/
http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/01/11/the-engadget-hd-interview-directvs-cto-re-hd-lite/
Upconverting a SD DVD is still a far shot from native 1080p.
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The oppo 981H is an amazing DVD player. I just got one in for my Dads Sony. Obviously there's no way to make an SD-DVD truly 1080p but, upconverting (to 1080p no less) a well authored DVD does make a remarkable difference on a set that resolve that resolution. Highly recommended player....for the features, nothing can touch it.
My only beef is the disc tray is really flimsy and the way it has been designed makes it very difficult to remove discs from the tray without getting your fingerprints all over the disc. Other than that, it's great.
It's hard for the eye to discern the difference between 1080i and 1080p at a reasonable distance....it's only when your nose is butt up close to the TV that you can pick it out. 1080p doesn't afford more detail, it takes care of the artifacts and inconsistencies introduced into the picture from interlacing.
I will say "true" 1080p has a very nice picture. Better than anything else out there hand down.
Pretty much, that's it and the optical pickups are different. Blu-Ray can encode at a higher bitrate. Theoretically, blu-ray has more going for it in the technical department, but Sony is doing its damnedest to make the format fail.
As to audio, Blu-ray is behind in titles that contain Dolby TrueHD tracks.
HD-DVD is leading in released titles, but the difference is minor (around 15% advantage)
Personally I'll wait for this (a 16X improvement over HDTV)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UHDV
(course it'll be a loooooong wait)
My only beef is the disc tray is really flimsy and the way it has been designed makes it very difficult to remove discs from the tray without getting your fingerprints all over the disc. Other than that, it's great.
Both HD-DVD and Blu-ray output 1080p....I'm not sure where you got that information.
It's hard for the eye to discern the difference between 1080i and 1080p at a reasonable distance....it's only when your nose is butt up close to the TV that you can pick it out. 1080p doesn't afford more detail, it takes care of the artifacts and inconsistencies introduced into the picture from interlacing.
I will say "true" 1080p has a very nice picture. Better than anything else out there hand down.
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Pretty much, that's it and the optical pickups are different. Blu-Ray can encode at a higher bitrate. Theoretically, blu-ray has more going for it in the technical department, but Sony is doing its damnedest to make the format fail.
As to audio, Blu-ray is behind in titles that contain Dolby TrueHD tracks.
HD-DVD is leading in released titles, but the difference is minor (around 15% advantage)
Personally I'll wait for this (a 16X improvement over HDTV)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UHDV
(course it'll be a loooooong wait)
Just some comments on the informative posts here.
HD DVD definitely does 1080P
Oppo players are sweet. The only criticism I have heard is the tray is flimsy. But the electronics and processing are on a par, if not better, then players costing a LOT more.
I would be very weary of DirecTV also. Yes, they compress the signal to squeeze all those channels into their bandwidth. Some contend (see AVS forum and do a search on HD Lite) that it is compressed so much it is no longer HD. Now they are adding more channels? The lawsuit will be interesting. I think Comcast does the same thing, but not to the same extend.
HD DVD definitely does 1080P
Oppo players are sweet. The only criticism I have heard is the tray is flimsy. But the electronics and processing are on a par, if not better, then players costing a LOT more.
I would be very weary of DirecTV also. Yes, they compress the signal to squeeze all those channels into their bandwidth. Some contend (see AVS forum and do a search on HD Lite) that it is compressed so much it is no longer HD. Now they are adding more channels? The lawsuit will be interesting. I think Comcast does the same thing, but not to the same extend.
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Well the HD DVD player that we sell at my work is a Toshiba and it only does 1080i. Maybe they came out with something new. I'll have to look into it. Either way I've seen the two side by side and blue-ray kicks ass. And please, nobody buy a hybrid player. Its a piece of garbage. You could buy em seperate at the same price.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interlacing
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1080p
1080i film-based content can become true 1080p
The following examples refer to content that is encoded in progressive-scan form during recording or transmission???what would be considered "native" progressive signals. However, where 24 fps film-based material is concerned, a 1080i encoded/transmitted stream can become a true "1080p" signal during playback by deinterlacing to re-combine the split field pairs into their original progressive film-scanned frames. Regarding 24 fps film-source material presented in conventional 1080i60 form, the deinterlacing process that achieves this goal is usually referred to as "3-2 pulldown reversal". The importance of this is that, where film-based content is concerned, all 1080-interlaced signals are potentially 1080p signals given the proper deinterlacing. As long as no additional image-degradation steps were applied during signal mastering (such as excessive vertical-pass filtering), the image from a properly deinterlaced film-source 1080i signal and a native-encoded 1080p signal will look exactly the same. As more and more processors and displays come to market able to apply 3-2 pulldown reversal to film-based 1080i60 signals, the amount of available "1080p" content for viewing expands (encompassing film-based 1080i60 feeds from broadcast HD, cable, and satellite).
Interesting sidenote, the only Blu Ray player on the market (Samsung) does output in 1080p, but the player itself interlaces, then de-interlaces the material from 1080p -->1080i -->1080p.
As long as your display does proper inverse telecine for film based material there is absolutely no difference between 1080i and 1080p.
As it relates to film (HD DVD, BD) you may want to read this.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telecine
People shouldn't be worried about 1080p so much as native resolution. You want as many pixels as possible, especially on larger displays.
the first generation toshiba hd-dvd player was 1080i only.
you can't really say either way blu ray is better if you haven't seen a 1080p HD-DVD next to a 1080p Blu Ray. They are indistinguishable.
What was say an old John Wayne movie filmed in? Circa 1950's ... ?
Reason I asked is I watched one on HDNET or one of those channels and the clarity was outstanding. There was no noise like I see in some of the other upconverted ... or what ever they do to it ... stuff I see.
Reason I asked is I watched one on HDNET or one of those channels and the clarity was outstanding. There was no noise like I see in some of the other upconverted ... or what ever they do to it ... stuff I see.
