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lnvanry said:
c'mon there are planty of religions that aren't war causing....Its just the big three monotheistic one that cause all the wars....funny b/c they all believe in the same God too.


hinduism, Taoism, Shintoism, shramanism, confucism, zen, buddhism...I'm sure that there are some more ones that I can't list off the top of my head.

Even the wars involving the Hindus and Buddhist were antogonized by crazy arabs...again
Buddhism is not a religion!!! They are atheist :finger:
 
I am by no means a religious person, but, playing devil's advocate...

Show me anything that shows a protein intake of 1g/lb of bodyweight is better than .7g/lb of bodyweight for hypertrophy. People put faith in stuff everyday that has absolutely concrete proof, that is their choice. Do you have 100% assurance that you are going to wake up tomorrow? I still bet you go to bed...
 
ForemanRules said:
Buddhism is not a religion!!! They are atheist :finger:
yes they are....they were one of the first religions ever....I usually give credit to most of your statements foreman but not this one.

Buddhist have PRIESTS..called lamas:) They are most defintely organized religion too...they have a clear hierarchal structure amonst the lamas and faithful base. They just don't have a modern approach of monotheism.
 
No, I was never catholic and they usually find their victims within the church. My particular opinion is there are probably more homosexuals and pedophiles in the cloth than any other profession. And if God is everywhere he is watching which makes him into kiddie porn. Pervert...
 
lnvanry said:
yes they are....they were one of the first religions ever....I usually give credit to most of your statements foreman but not this one.

Buddhist have PRIESTS..called lamas:) They are most defintely organized religion too...they have a clear hierarchal structure amonst the lamas and faithful base. They just don't have a modern approach of monotheism.
I have been Buddhist since 1995........and you are wrong...it is not a religion.
I do not consider a organized group that does not believe in God a religion.
 
I would say it was a religion if you have a spiritual leader, like that Dalai Lama guy.
 
Tier said:
I would say it was a religion if you have a spiritual leader, like that Dalai Lama guy.
Go to the bookstore or library and read up on it....then tell us what you have learned.
 
Quit copping out with those answers, if you disagree explain why...

I disagree with you because religion isn't necessarily based on a diety. It's a set of values and beliefs.
 
Tier said:
Quit copping out with those answers, if you disagree explain why...

I disagree with you because religion isn't necessarily based on a diety. It's a set of values and beliefs.
I explained my reasons..........if you want a extremely comprehensive explanation on Buddhism I suggest you read a book.
 
You're acting like a sissy. What a cop out, I expected more.

Go read a book, what a complete cop out.
 
Tier said:
You're acting like a sissy. What a cop out, I expected more.

Go read a book, what a complete cop out.
I don't have the time nor the inclination to spoon feed you knowledge you are to lazy to research for yourself.

Pathetic. :rolleyes:
 
    1. Belief in and reverence for a supernatural power or powers regarded as creator and governor of the universe.
    2. A personal or institutionalized system grounded in such belief and worship.
  1. The life or condition of a person in a religious order.
  2. A set of beliefs, values, and practices based on the teachings of a spiritual leader.
  3. A cause, principle, or activity pursued with zeal or conscientious devotion.
 
Why even post with this BS, you're just trying to escape from analysis, the "I'm not playing" defense.

Buddhism is a religion, it follows the definition of a religion is considered a religion by it's followers and it's leader. "His Holiness" the Dalai Lama is believed to be reincarnated every time he dies which is just as ridiculous and unfounded as God.
 
Wrong again.....try reading a book sometime Einstein.
 
He just showed you a dictionary definition Tonto. Unfortunately dictionary definition which matches your religion is proof.
 
Try having some knowledge on the subject......a book or two might be a good idea.
Using the Dictionary to learn about Buddhism is probably not the best idea Einstein. :laugh:
 
lnvanry said:
did you get molested by a catholic priest?you seem real bitter
How is questioning religion seen as bitter? I'm not religious, and it's not because I was molested. It's because I have a hard time buying into something that someone tells me and when I ask why, the response is "because that's how it is". A lot of things happen "because", but religion is the one I have trouble with. Some sort of higher power is sitting here telling me "You have free will, but if you ever, EVER do this, or this, or this, or this, or this you will suffer for eternity, BUT there is hope! If you fall to your knees and pray to me, you will recieve eternal happiness and peace. Go against my word do you? Here's a plague or two. You guys are having to much fun and not enough prayer, time for a flood, the guilty and innocent alike die because I say so! Exercise your free will BUT only to the extent I set forth or you're fucked" and the higher power isn't telling me this, someone else who thinks all this is true is telling me this.

Billions of people believe in God, but no one has any proof of him, and it's the people who see Bigfoot and UFO's who are the crazys. What if I saw the image of a UFO in my cereal this morning, or what if Bigfoot had a son in his image and likeness? Would you believe in them more? Have you noticed that as the Loch Ness monster myth grew, so did the sightings? Look at scientology. That's the biggest scam in the history of scams. A science fiction novelist pulled a religion out of his ass and has convinced a bunch of people to buy into the crazy crap he set forth. Who's to say some guy didn't have this same idea about 2,000 years ago?
 
gocock you obviously didn't read my post right before that :)

"Any christian I've talked to trying to prove it just starts asking a bunch of questions, and tries to turn it around like some overly transparent defense mechanism."

Just a reminder
 
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ForemanRules said:
Using the Dictionary to learn about Buddhism is probably not the best idea Einstein. :laugh:
Using the dictionary is a pretty good idea to find a deffinition though. The deffinition of the word religion says that buddhism is a god damn religion.
 
ihateschoolmt said:
Using the dictionary is a pretty good idea to find a deffinition though. The deffinition of the word religion says that buddhism is a god damn religion.
Thats your uneducated opinion :thumb:
 
He's in denial... It's quite obviously a religion. Don't mind him, he's just evading because he knows he's on weak ground, he's avoiding discussion at all costs, it's humorous :)
 
ihateschoolmt said:
It's not a fucking opinion. You don't know what religion means.
Its clear you don't. :rolleyes:
Now go pop a zit. :laugh:
 
Tier said:
The dictionary is a book... Einstein wasn't religious :)
Yes he was, have you ever heard "God does not play dice" ? Einstein said this when he heard the idea of quantum physics governing everything, meaning existence is based on pure randomness. He did not believe in a personal god or the constraints of modern religion and that god controlls us. His views were influenced by Spinoza, a Jewish philosopher.
 
God it was like straight from the horses mouth that link, I love it. Like an entire center for buddhist studies disagreeing with him, that was refreshing.
 
One source is not a fact.....try learning about it before you spew out all that misinformation.....

pathetic!
 
ForemanRules said:
One source is not a fact.....try learning about it before you spew out all that misinformation.....

pathetic!
...Two. Two more than you have found.
 
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