Well I got a call from my Dr.s office and he wanted to see me. I've been using a 4 chloro product for some time now and really like the results and I didnt notice any bad sides. My cholesterol is high. good cholesterol low. I was in the middle of a 30 day cycle when I took blood work. Liver is good and everything else checks out fine. Doc just doesnt like the high cholesterol. He recomended I stop and clean out for 3 mons so he can retest. I have been using 30 day cycles and all suggested supports. this was my 3rd cycle in about 9 mons. oh well, I guess when he sees the new results after the 3 mons I can start doing something else. maybe aas, dont know for sure yet. Open to suggestions. you can pm me with info to help point me in a better direction. I tried havoc and didnt like it. I would definately like to move away from the orals all together 
