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Bloodwork came back

bigmoe65 said:
Could be high estro possibly.
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For sure. Last time my E2 was 57, up from a 23 baseline. So he upped the adex from a worthless (as per this thread :D) .25mg/week to .5mg/week. I take it Monday and Thursday.
 
bigmoe65 said:
Whats your next step after the clomid?
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Well I'm not 100% sure. I have an appointment with the doc in a week or so. I am assuming we'll finish the taper and check bloods after that. If I fall back to about where I was then he said we are doing injections.
 
Wow. Results are in.

Testosterone, Serum - 1258 High ng/dL 348-1197
Free Testosterone, Direct - 23.4 pg/mL 8.7-25.1
LH - 10.1 High mIU/mL 1.7-8.6
Estradiol - 67.8 High pg/mL 7.6-42.6

bigmoe was spot on about the estradiol. That's pretty high. On another good note, my total cholesterol is down to 183, and LDL is down to 119. It was much, much higher just a few months ago.
 
If youre coming off the clomid i wouldnt do anything at this point. As you come off the clomid your e2 will drop. Its a wait and see until you get labs again, just wait at least 6 weeks post clomid.
 
bigmoe65 said:
If youre coming off the clomid i wouldnt do anything at this point. As you come off the clomid your e2 will drop. Its a wait and see until you get labs again, just wait at least 6 weeks post clomid.
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I'm wondering if he'll up my adex to 0.75 or 1 mg/week. Not sure if that is a good idea or not but the thought of him doing that crossed my mind.
 
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46and2 said:
I'm wondering if he'll up my adex to 0.75 or 1 mg/week. Not sure if that is a good idea or not but the thought of him doing that crossed my mind.
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You could do that for now to get e2 in check, but as you come off the clomid you will need to stop the adex anyways.
 
So I think it's the high E2, or maybe my imagination, but by nipples seem a little sensitive. I've tried calling my clinic because my prescription is going to run out before my DR appointment later this month. So far, twice I have been told they would "send the doctor a message" to see what he wants to do. So far, twice they have failed to call me back. I've already ordered more adex on my own to bump up and try and get this E2 under control. I'm not terribly happy with the wait for the Dr appointment, or the run-around I've been getting on my prescription. :(
 
bigmoe65 said:
You need a new doc.
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Agree with more your doc is shotgun approach. He/she is all over the place. Ai 1x week is worthless if doc does not understand that time for new doc on that alone. Again like always I sound like a parrot but get your own blood work its so cheap as you will never know without numbers.
 
so are you off the clomid completely now? I'm impressed with the 1258 test if your E2 was under control it would have been even higher along with your free test.
 
zdudezdud said:
so are you off the clomid completely now? I'm impressed with the 1258 test if your E2 was under control it would have been even higher along with your free test.
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No I'm still on it. Another thing that has me thinkin about changing doctors. I did 4 weeks at 50mg/day, almost 8 weeks now at 50mg/weekday. My extra adex came today and I took 1mg to start. I don't get to talk to the doc until the 19th. I'm bumping the adex up on my own because I gotta do something about these nipples and E2. I don't touch them like many people do and force the issue. And I think I should have tapered completely off by now.
 
Well, my levels are also in the shitter. I've gotten them up a bit with pct, but they seem to drop back down not long after.

I was clean for over a year, and they still remained low.

I'm hesitant to get TRT thinking that would shut them down the rest of the way.

I don't understand the long term effects of TRT enough to make a decision about it.
 
Google HIV/Aids males on testosterone replacement....you can find some long term studies on men on TRT..

In a nutshell it is the AI that may be more trouble then the actual test dose...with arimidex showing a steady suppression of HDL over several years...it one reason GTx designed Ostarine to look for a replacement for TRT w/out the sides....

Issue is also with low T men face health challenges...kinda a giant see-saw..
 
Damn, now it feels like there are tiny hard lumps under my nipples! I should have listened to you guys and got a new doctor. I'm on 1mg/week adex. Should I pick up letro? Maybe nolva? Fuck! :wits:
 
Wouldn't nolva make things worse though? Since taking a SERM (clomid) is what caused my high test and e2 to begin with. How would another SERM make it better?
 
I actually have buddies who use nolva as opposed to the standard ai such as arimedex or aromasin and they say it works better for them, nolvo otoh is very very strong and needed only in emergency


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Quick update. Off Clomid completely, been running high dose adex for over a week. The tiny lump appears to be gone, and now my nipples are only sensitive in extreme cold. Puffiness has gone away as well. I'm bummed about having to start all over again looking for a doc, going through tests, paying the $200-$300 initial consult fees, etc. Maybe I'll get lucky and the Clomid kick started me for good, but I doubt it.
 
46and2 said:
Quick update. Off Clomid completely, been running high dose adex for over a week. The tiny lump appears to be gone, and now my nipples are only sensitive in extreme cold. Puffiness has gone away as well. I'm bummed about having to start all over again looking for a doc, going through tests, paying the $200-$300 initial consult fees, etc. Maybe I'll get lucky and the Clomid kick started me for good, but I doubt it.
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So to hear that. Why dont you try a trt clinic, look through the trt clinic thread.
 
bigmoe65 said:
So to hear that. Why dont you try a trt clinic, look through the trt clinic thread.
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This was through a clinic in Florida. I'm looking for another one but I will definitely be a bit more selective this time.
 
Man most good clinics dont have a "fee", and u can send in any bw u have from prior draws, just has to be recent!


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j2048b said:
Man most good clinics dont have a "fee", and u can send in any bw u have from prior draws, just has to be recent!


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I was told by several, including newera, that my "initial consult fee" would "only" be X-$100 instead of X because I already had been receiving treatment elsewhere and had recent bloods.
 
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