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Booby's first cycle

KILLEROFSAINTS said:
300 Monday...300 thurs ...over an over....or 250 each time for 500 week...decent starting dose
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Im just curious why you guys recommend more then 300mgs a week?...My brother gained 40lbs on a 300mgs of test a week on his first cycle...Also heavyiron posted a thread that ive been studying and even it shows good results on 300mgs of test a week...Im not critisizing just asking. Heres heavys thread. http://www.ironmagazineforums.com/anabolic-zone/104658-first-cycle-pct.html
 
250 and 300 is barely above hormone replacement therapy...we wanna be enhanced not baseline normal...I would think most people start at 300 to 500 a week
 
What if my natural test levels are still pretty high for my age wouldnt 300mgs enhance me?
 
any synthetic test you put in yourself you shut down your natural production....at 44 there is no way in hell you have as high test as you did at 18....natty test levels start to nose dive around 26
 
KILLEROFSAINTS said:
any synthetic test you put in yourself you shut down your natural production....at 44 there is no way in hell you have as high test as you did at 18....natty test levels start to nose dive around 26
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Thats a good point you make...I tried to get my family doc to put me on trt last year so he had the nurse draw blood and they sent it off for lab work...The next week he told me there was no way he could ethically prescribe me test because my levels were still good...I have no idea what his definition of good is though?...One question why did my brother get great results with 300mgs? He said he felt like a porn star while on his cycle so it couldnt of shut him down....I will take 500mgs a week into consideration though.
 
things effect people differently....my little uncle is much smaller than me...he can eat harsh orals like candy....but they cripple me....I feel like death....ifbb pros obviously have a huge freakish response to test...others could take twice as much and not gain half the size
 
I agree 300mgs will yield some results, no doubt there. But if you're not going to run 300 consider running a stack that would work well within that range also. If not at least try 400, that's 2cc per week give or take depending on dosage per. Ml. Personally, I would run 500 per week if you think it's too much, back it down, but you may want the full blown effect not just above cruise/maintenance level for a cycle. Other wise just cruise at 300, and increase to a cycle of 5-600 later if you like what your doing. i believe you'll love either way.
 
Thanx for the info...Im hoping i have the same response to test my brother had...He was always a big muscular guy but test turned him into a freakin mutant...Hes talking about trying a tren cycle soon, im scared for him, lol
 
HFO3 said:
I agree 300mgs will yield some results, no doubt there. But if you're not going to run 300 consider running a stack that would work well within that range also. If not at least try 400, that's 2cc per week give or take depending on dosage per. Ml. Personally, I would run 500 per week if you think it's too much, back it down, but you may want the full blown effect not just above cruise/maintenance level for a cycle. Other wise just cruise at 300, and increase to a cycle of 5-600 later if you like what your doing. i believe you'll love either way.
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I think you are thinking about enanthate or cyp, while he is taling about 300mg/week of prop.
 
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I read on here recently, don't ask me to find it now. That the average 18-20 yr old guy produces about75mg of test per week naturally. So 300 should yield decent results, pretty noticeable for a first run. Now about your brother not being shut down, He Was! The test he was putting in overrode the lack thereof that his nuts used to produce.
 
HFO3 said:
I am, I thought he changed his mind to avoid the 70 injections VS 10-20, IDK?

BigDelicious should have been a wrestler! Did you choose a test yet?
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Im still debating on it as the longer esters sound more appealing, but people who have done all esters tell me that prop was better for solid gains with no bloat.
 
KILLEROFSAINTS said:
and why would a guy who isn't focused on cutting care
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Not sure i get this?....I have no interest in looking as ripped as a pro bodybuilder...I just like having big muscles and being strong mostly, but i took some members advice and have been cutting more bodyfat for my cyle so i can get the most out of it...I want to limit as much water bloat as possible...Im wanting quality mass gains and if i get leaner while on thats a plus for me.
 
if you gain 10 pounds of muscle 5 pounds water and then lose the water coming off maintain diet and keep a big chunk of the muscle....you obviously end up better
 
if i was advising you i would say not to run anything now...these arent majic pills..as for your brother gaining 40lbs at 300mgs ew..ya its possible but most likely he ran no AI and ate terrible to get that 40lbs...in the end it prob didnt do what it appeared to do while running it..the best repsonders out there may get 3-5lbs of quality out of a 300mg ew cycle..
 
s2h said:
if i was advising you i would say not to run anything now...these arent majic pills..as for your brother gaining 40lbs at 300mgs ew..ya its possible but most likely he ran no AI and ate terrible to get that 40lbs...in the end it prob didnt do what it appeared to do while running it..the best repsonders out there may get 3-5lbs of quality out of a 300mg ew cycle..
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Just wondering why you say i shouldnt run my first cycle now?...Im 44 years old...Been lifting weights on and off my whole adult life...Im not getting any younger.
 
Run a cycle if you want to run a cycle. testosterone will help you, period. Your nutrition plan will play the largest part of your results, choose an AI and fucken do it, IMO. As you said, your 44, you could easily go HRT if you wanted and stay on indefinitely.
 
Booby said:
Just wondering why you say i shouldnt run my first cycle now?...Im 44 years old...Been lifting weights on and off my whole adult life...Im not getting any younger.
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a lot of people think if you are over a certain bodyfat% you shouldnt take the stuff...you grown tho...everyone does
 
KILLEROFSAINTS said:
a lot of people think if you are over a certain bodyfat% you shouldnt take the stuff...you grown tho...everyone does
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Thats strange though because most of the pro bodybuilders i meet look fat when they are off season when bulking.
 
I know....I was very fat when I started....a bout with depression nearly killed me
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obviously priest is in the genetically elite...and he would be the most extreme example ever...losing an average of 60 pounds each prep
 
Welp im hoping my androgen receptors are as good as my older brothers.
 
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