Clenbuterol Or ECA Stack

[Monolith]

To wrap it up, where are the studies to show that it's not anabolic in humans? You finally admit that Clenbuterol is anabolic in animals, which almost everyone knows. Where's this scientific community? Are you joking? I'm sure most people are on here to learn and take in/take part in subjective criticism. If this is a scientific community, where are the credentials? Nobody will laugh in anyone's face. DONE with this thread.

Sorry, i didnt realize you were starting a thread on how anabolic clenbuterol is in syrian hamsters on a bodybuilding website. Silly me, i should have known better. Oversimplification for the oversimple, right?

 

[trHawT]

Yep. Consider the source.

 

[Mudge]

Monolith, show us a study that shows that Clen is not anabolic in humans or animals. Dude, how can you go against science? Pirate explained above.

I hardly think science has looked much at clen for people with wasting diseases.

 

[Pirate!]

Agreed. Everything seems to be relative/opinionated on fitness forums. One person will say one thing, then the other says something in opposition. O well. Thanks. Are you getting a B.S.? Registered Dietician?

B.S. in Nutrition, not going to register because it is not my career choice. Lam is right about it being subjective. In the body building community, clen would not be considered anabolic. In the nutritional sciences, it would be addressed in the ways it has both catbolic and anti-catabolic properties. Clen has highly catabolic properties (in the nutritional sciences). Catabolism is defined as: "reactions in which large molecules are broken down to smaller ones. Catabolic reactions usually release energy". Clen catabolizes fat big time. In BB we talk about catabolism in reference to muscle breakdown, but it applies to fat too (scientifically speaking). So, in BB terms we say it is anti-catabolic because it spares muscle breakdown. As far as science terminology is concerned, Clen is more of a catabolic agent because if you hold all other factors constant (diet, exercise, rest, etc.) and add clen, the net result would be increased breakdown of tissue (fat in this case). Clen has both catabolic (breakdown of fat) and anti-catabolic (preservation of muscle) properies. It is not anabolic in the steroid since. But, since it causes the body to use more fat for it's energy, it is protein sparing. This allows the protein ingested to be used to build new tissue (anabolism)--and therefore has anabolic properties, just as protein has anabolic properties. If you don't believe protein has anabolic properties--and is therefore anabolic--cut it out of your diet for a few weeks and post your results. I'd like to see if your protein intake affects your body's ability to build new tissue.

 

[Monolith]

B.S. in Nutrition, not going to register because it is not my career choice. Lam is right about it being subjective. In the body building community, clen would not be considered anabolic. In the nutritional sciences, it would be addressed in the ways it has both catbolic and anti-catabolic properties. Clen has highly catabolic properties (in the nutritional sciences). Catabolism is defined as: "reactions in which large molecules are broken down to smaller ones. Catabolic reactions usually release energy". Clen catabolizes fat big time. In BB we talk about catabolism in reference to muscle breakdown, but it applies to fat too (scientifically speaking). So, in BB terms we say it is anti-catabolic because it spares muscle breakdown. As far as science terminology is concerned, Clen is more of a catabolic agent because if you hold all other factors constant (diet, exercise, rest, etc.) and add clen, the net result would be increased breakdown of tissue (fat in this case). Clen has both catabolic (breakdown of fat) and anti-catabolic (preservation of muscle) properies. It is not anabolic in the steroid since. But, since it causes the body to use more fat for it's energy, it is protein sparing. This allows the protein ingested to be used to build new tissue (anabolism)--and therefore has anabolic properties, just as protein has anabolic properties. If you don't believe protein has anabolic properties--and is therefore anabolic--cut it out of your diet for a few weeks and post your results. I'd like to see if your protein intake affects your body's ability to build new tissue.

Well... you could just argue that protein is only the substrate which the catabolic/anabolic process of weight training utilizes. And on the same token, you could even argue that dairy queen's reese's swirl is anabolic, because it increases fat mass.

But i see what youre saying. I think there's just been some confusion between the common definition of catabolic/anabolic on various forums (relating specifically to skeletal muscle), and the multi-tissue effect youre talking about (relating to overall increase or decrease in body mass).

 

[Pirate!]

Exactly Monolith!

 

[underslungload]

how much ephridrine do you take .. 8mg etc

hi im on eca stack but its not doing any thing for me wot is your dose

 

[Tha Don]

why not search "ECA stack" in the supplements forum, and you will find your answer without the need to update ancient threads

 

[Tough Old Man]

Hi All,


Just wondering what the preferred/best method of fat loss would be between Clenbuterol or ECA stack (Ephridrine, Caffiene & Aspirin)

I understand that the ECA stack is faster acting and that Clenbuterol is slower acting but also has 'Protien Sparing' effects.

I am using the ECA stack now but, have to be honest that I don't really like the way it can make me feel.

Any info will be much appreciated.

Many Thanks


muso

None of the above. Try a fucking diet and some cardio.

 

[Bazooka Tooth]

Toughy can help again?? What happened with the job? havent been on in a while....anyways, cool!

 

[Curlingcadys]

you guys (besides young d) realize this thread is a year old right?