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Originally posted by mrguy
Gopro,
I've been reading that Clen can have serious side effects on the heart muscle even after a short period of time by causing them to harden.
Do you know if that is true or not?
Originally posted by jim
GP given the Clenbuterol/T3 stack, what are the repurcussions comming off the stack. Assume the 2 days on 2 days off for 4 weeks scenario. I heard that there may be significant water retention once done with the stack.
I want to lose the weight, and keep it off.
thanks
Originally posted by davidjasondean
I have heard some bad stuff with that combo. But I'm sure Go pro or BO etc. will care to comment further on this!
Originally posted by gopro
Well, both T3 and clen can have side effects...and in senstive individuals using them together can cause problems. But for most this is one of the most effective fat burning combos around. Again, the idea is to not abuse either compound...not to use them for too long...to taper properly...and to use certain supplements when coming off to help your metabolism kick back in on its own.
Originally posted by gopro
Well, it is really not water weight that is the problem, but FAT! If you do not come off correctly by tapering and using certain supplements, you will get a rebound effect and end up gaining alot of fat back! Your metabolism will be temporarily dead.
Originally posted by mrguy
Gopro,
Have you heard of this manufactuer?
SUBSTANCE: CLENBUTEROL HYDROCLORIDE
MANUFACTURER NAME: NOVEGAM
CONTENTS: 20mcg/tab 20 tabs/box
ADMINISTRATION: oral
MANUFACTURER: Hoechst Marion Roussel
GRADE: Pharmaceutical
Thanks
Originally posted by jim
Ouch, as always we must be careful. What would you suggest as supplements for getting my metabolism running on its own?
And buy the way, thanks for all of the information you provide on a regular basis.
Originally posted by davidjasondean
When you mean taper off, say the Liquid Clenbuterol, how do you mean that? Are you referring to day usages or amount or both?
Originally posted by mrguy
Originally posted by Gopro
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Anyway, I suggest a starting dose of 60 mcg per day...20 mcg 3 x per day. If you are going to use it for 4 weeks I would go to 80 mcg in week 2, than 100 in week 3 and 120 in week 4. Preferably I would then taper down for 1 more week.
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Gopro, thanks for the information you provide for all of us. It is nice to be able to ask a question of a person who obviously has the knowledge and is willing to share it.
On your post above about dosage, what you recommend for the tapering part of it. I'm 6'1, 220 lbs and fairly solid. Just need to lose that extra body fat.
Originally posted by gopro
I would recommend it be tapered over more than a week actually. It really depends on how you use it and at what dosages. For the above scheme I would probably go from the 120 mcg to 100 for 3 days to 80 for 3 days to 60 for 3 days and then maybe to 40 for 3 more days.
There are other ways of using clen though, like in a 2 week on 2 week off pattern, with or without ECA.
Originally posted by davidjasondean
I kinda figured that but I wanted to make sure.
Thnx GP!
Originally posted by gonzaox
Shit,
That I did not know. Stick with the clen then. Just be sure on the doses and be xtra careful!!! Take care!
Originally posted by crackerjack414
justa comment dnp is seriously some scary stuff you can actuely cook alive from it. It is a drug for the pros not the ameteur. Sure you can lose 5-10 lbs of fat a week but be prepared fro hell. Not to mention you have to tweak your diet a bit using fructose. I would not recomend it for any one unless they are a pro and know what they are doing
Originally posted by Mudge
I have hear that Frank Zane is supposedly life dependant on thyroid stuff, anyone heard this?
Originally posted by cornfed
Yeah? well, I'm cuter and innocent too!![]()
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Originally posted by gopro
Never heard that? Where did you get that from?
Originally posted by Mudge
Just a member board, I sure thought it was ridiculous, he was small but he wasn't .7% bodyfat or anything so I'm really not sure, just another looney comment I guess then.