Compound or isolation movements?

[Motorcycled00d]

Very true. My shoulders, traps, chest, and legs grow like freaking weeds but my arms and back refuse to cooperate.

I hear ya, my arms and legs are stubborn.. genetics are a bitch haha.

Ben dur - What works for "everyone?" There is no one way to lift. There are endless styles and techniques of training, but there isn't a way that works for "everyone" because each person is different. Each person must tailor their routine to themselves, and stick with what works for THEM. The only way to achieve this is to try different things.

 

[Gazhole]

I hear ya, my arms and legs are stubborn.. genetics are a bitch haha.

Ben dur - What works for "everyone?" There is no one way to lift. There are endless styles and techniques of training, but there isn't a way that works for "everyone" because each person is different. Each person must tailor their routine to themselves, and stick with what works for THEM. The only way to achieve this is to try different things.

What works for "everyone" are the basic tenets of human physiology.

There are differences between an individual's recovery abilities, energy requirements, proportion of fiber types, number of cellular mitochondria etc etc, but biology is biology.

There is no way around the fact that compound movements recruit the most muscle, thus elicit a greater hormonal response, and hence have the potential to produce more growth.

Not sure if thats what you're arguing against, but its still true, lol.

 

[Ben dur]

the difference between an olympian, and a couch potato is very small

the training methods required to improve their abilities may differ depending on there goals

but the biggest differences will be

intensity
duration
recovery time

everyone is different
but we are more similar than different



compound lifts work for everyone
based on my experience/observations/research

 

[Gazhole]

I think i saw a study somewhere that proposed elite level athletes had way more mitochondria than non-elite level athletes, i'll see if i can dig it out.

 

[Motorcycled00d]

I'm not arguing anything.

I'm saying everyone is different. Some get good results with all compounds, and some get better results with a mix. Some get good results lifting 2 times a week, and some lifting 5. Lift however you guys want, if isolations don't work for you then don't. I couldn't care less.

 

[Ben dur]

I think i saw a study somewhere that proposed elite level athletes had way more mitochondria than non-elite level athletes, i'll see if i can dig it out.

im very interested..
unless your yanking my chain

 

[Gazhole]

im very interested..
unless your yanking my chain

Well this was one of the ones i read, i can't find the main one i was talking about, it may not have been on the web but in a paper journal at uni or something.

SpringerLink - Journal Article

"An abundance of subsarcolemmal mitochondria located close to the capillaries, efficient capillary proliferation between fibres where sharing can occur and greater relative distribution and size of type I fibres are, collectively, efficient characteristics of extreme endurance training."

Not as cool as i made it out to be, but still interesting, lol.

 

[Ben dur]

the wording suggest that this is a result of their training methods

my argument still holds