Considering Blast & Cruise.. Need More Info..

[gdeputy]

I've been researching like hell on blast & cruise and to be honest everywhere I go has a different opinion.

FOR THOSE THAT DO IT -

Any infertility issues? What kind of ACTUAL issues am I looking at?

I've done two legit cycles and enjoyed the gains but I am tempted to blast and cruise. safely of course and I want as much info as possible.

27, 5'11, 225LB's around 12% bf.

 

[the_predator]

Are you thinking about having a kid? If so, wait, blast and pct. If not, blast and cruise away.

 

[vforgy]

Interested to see what some vets on here have to say. I'm interested myself being 32 and knowing my natural test is falling off. If your on trt what do you like about it and u got any regrets from starting when you did?

 

[OldSchoolLifter]

Some better info in the run and gun post, and some ideas in the cycle layout one.

Need Cycle Layout Help? Not sure What to Run? Lookie Lookie

Run and Gun AAS Cycling ??? A power approach to success. - OldSchoolLifter

 

[girpy]

Keep running HCG or clomid during cycle to keep the boys working and you won't have any real issues from my personal experience. Been on TRT a while now and have to say it's great compared to cycling, just have to toss in an oral or injectable for a few weeks and see some gains, and when dropping it only lose a bit of water since test levels keep steady.

but yeah it is a long term commitment but there is tons of info out there for keeping fertility up while blast/cruising, just do some google searches or read around on the TRT forum, tons of great info here.

 

[jshel12]

I started self administered TRT a few months before I turned 30. Just hated going on and off and using drugs like clomid that made me feel like shit, just to barely recover then start cycling again. Now I just cruise at 300 mgs of test E a week( 150mgs 2 x weekly). I don't go as high as I used to, maybe increase test and add one injectable compound once a year. And during summer keep test at 300 and add in a little tren. I will drop down to 200 mgs weekly for 8 - 10 weeks a year to give my body a break. But my main positive is there is no up or downs anymore, just a nice transition from a cycle to 200 - 300 mgs of test. Plus I know I was most likely gonna end up on TRT anyway. Now to your question. I would not start TRT at 27 off 2 cycles unless 1. you naturally have low test 2. children are not in your future, and make sure you don't lose a nice girl cause you went on TRT a few years too early and now can't have kids. I was damn near 30 and have an 11 year old so I did not want any more kids. It also raised my Hematocrit levels, which I believe is not a huge deal if not raised too much and can also be helped by donating blood. All in all I personally would just cycle for a couple more years and run proper PCT if I were in your shoes. If you don't have asperations to be a professional bodybuilder, why not wait, you can start TRT whenever you want, but once you start you MAY have to stay the course forever if you can't recover. You don't need to make that decision at 27.

 

[jay_steel]

Keep running HCG or clomid during cycle to keep the boys working and you won't have any real issues from my personal experience. Been on TRT a while now and have to say it's great compared to cycling, just have to toss in an oral or injectable for a few weeks and see some gains, and when dropping it only lose a bit of water since test levels keep steady.

but yeah it is a long term commitment but there is tons of info out there for keeping fertility up while blast/cruising, just do some google searches or read around on the TRT forum, tons of great info here.

clomid during cycle will not do much it does not stimulate LH. HCG and HMB will stimulate LH which is what will actually increase sperm count.

I made the decision to do this over a year ago and size wise held on to my gains and growing everyday. However, I am 29 and trying to have my first kid now and its a pain in the ass. I think my hcg bill has been just as high as my gear bill and now i am going to introduce HMB now to see if that gets the ball rolling. My sperm count is still in the drain, but I was told taking 75mg of HMB m w f which is 90$ a week got this guys sperm count through the roof while on cycle. I dont really want to come off cycle to pct and recover because that may take 6 months plus to fully recover. So i will flip the bill and spend over 500$ a month on HMB to have a kid.

This is the only down side that I see, I have seen guys with sperm counts though of 10 get their wives preg. it only takes one. I am just tired of waiting and have been trying since april now. Other then that my blood levels are on point, i did have to recover from a hard oral cycle but my liver values are where I need them now and im off orals for the rest of the year.

So that is the only factor i see that is a con overal. Now if your genetically not fit for gear you can have other adverse affects but i am a huge supporter of blasting and cruising. You will also be on trt most likely for the rest of your life however, but i also made that choice.

 

[moodyman1]

I've been researching like hell on blast & cruise and to be honest everywhere I go has a different opinion.

FOR THOSE THAT DO IT -

Any infertility issues? What kind of ACTUAL issues am I looking at?

I've done two legit cycles and enjoyed the gains but I am tempted to blast and cruise. safely of course and I want as much info as possible.

27, 5'11, 225LB's around 12% bf.

Nobody knows of all issues you'd be looking at. IMO there's nothing "safe" about throwing your bodies hormones out of whack for an extended length of time. Your body will respond to the disruption in ways that may not be apparent nor manifest till years down the road. The best u can do is minimize the risks and ask your self if u want to start down this road at only 27.

FWIW..I not preaching against blast and cruise AKA.."always on". I'm 44 and am doing it this year. I already spit out a family but I do wonder if I might pay for this later..I.E..heart issues, prostate, etc...

 

[NTL]

This is a decision that should not be taking lightly. I blast and cruise. I started this year(42 years old) but also wonder about the long terms health effects. I get blood work regularly and have only had rbc a little high.

 

[jay_steel]

This is a decision that should not be taking lightly. I blast and cruise. I started this year(42 years old) but also wonder about the long terms health effects. I get blood work regularly and have only had rbc a little high.

what were you on during this because RBC is really not a serious thing depending on what your taking. For example, Anadrol all ways increases my RBC while on it and then it drops right after. If my RBC was high on something like var then i would be more worried and check my hemacrit as well.

 

[OTG85]

I been on cycle for 1 1/2 now Crusing and blasting.I have two many kids already and atrophied low sperm count balls are the answer

 

[theCaptn']

Are you thinking about having a kid? If so, wait, blast and pct. If not, blast and cruise away.

My mate conceived after blasting 10 years and going

 

[jay_steel]

I been on cycle for 1 1/2 now Crusing and blasting.I have two many kids already and atrophied low sperm count balls are the answer

wish i had that problem lol im trying to have a kid right now but at the same time trying to gain enough size for next year to compete at one of the bigger NPC shows as a MW. I think im lucky if i have 5 swimmers in me lol.

 

[OTG85]

All it takes is one bro!Blast hcg,hmm,clomid with low test dose and then she got you for 18 years

 

[jay_steel]

i did that for two months actually one month no test... got tired of being weak and wanted to grow more for next season.

 

[theCaptn']

wish i had that problem lol im trying to have a kid right now but at the same time trying to gain enough size for next year to compete at one of the bigger NPC shows as a MW. I think im lucky if i have 5 swimmers in me lol.

Just buy her some dogs

 

[Mr Persistent]

Big decision... I just turned 25 and blasted and cruised for a year prior to coming off 3 week ago... Yep sucks coming off but I had blood tests done when I was on my last cycle and results was not good make sure ? get regular bloods if you decide to and like most will advise I would recommend waiting until you have kids and shit first.. If I had kids already i would not hesitate to TRT. Thought of becoming infirtile just to look good in my early 20's is not something I want to have to face in my life. Cycle properly I think if you look at the old age bodybuilders arbor and them you would clearly see them "off" In pics it's only now a days they are walking around 300lb with abs all year but fuck knows the future implications! I think time off is needed I guaranteed if I recover and when I do if i stayed of for a little longer then cycled again my body will respond much better then on trt.


Also does gear give you any sides? Acne? Balding ect... If your sitting there with a receding hairline or oily skin full of spots and you wanna trt to ultamitly look better then your kind of shooting your self in the foot ha yeah he carfull with your decision I'd say wait till you've had kids at least and if you decide to do TRT make sure it's under docs supervision! Take care.

 

[gdeputy]

sides.. not much. I got some tren dick but i wasn't running caber. I'm actually on week 3 of 125mg test E cruise and the only sides are slight acne on back.. nothing much though and the entire cycle i ran i had no negative sides other than the tren dick which is now gone thankfully.,

i have nolva and clomid here in case i decide to stop but i'm still undecided.


edit: and to clarify yes.. looking to have a child before 30. That's why i'm concerned with the implications.