considering steroids

[pengers84]

hey, guys and girls, ive been bodybuilding now for 5 years im currently 20 years old and considering using steroids, ive been doing a lot of research and come 2 the conclusion that deca durabolin would be best and safest (side effects vs results) ive heard about using clomid and something starting with p i think it was proviron to make it safer. ive got no idea how 2 get hold of the stuff, i live in canberra in australia and what dosage to take ive heard if its your first time that you should gradually buid up the dosage over 8 weeks then have a break. if anyone could give me any imformation or advice it would be greatly apreciated, thanks

 

[Massive D]

Fot your first run use 200mgs/week but For an experienced user 400 - 600 mgs/week. Some people say you can get away with less but I have not found that to be true at least with myself. It is easy on you, so I would tend to go the extra mile and take a little more when I can find it.

Deca-Durabolin is the "jack of all trades" when it comes to steroids. This is "the steroid" to stack with others. I am convinced that using deca with other drugs is where the term "stacking" originally came from. Deca is typically stacked with many things like dianabol, any of the various testosterones, sostanon 250, anadrol 50, etc, etc for adding large amounts of muscle mass. It can be taken along with anavar, masteron, parabolan, primobolan, etc. if you are looking to add better quality muscle that will stay with you longer and make you look harder since you will have less of the water retention associated with the dbols and testosterones.

Deca-Durabolin is a relatively safe steroid. Typically, you can expect a little minor acne, higher blood pressure which causes a longer time period for blood to clot, headaches, and increased libido.

As for PCT i would go with some Nolvadex and Clomids but its totally up to you

 

[gr81]

come 2 the conclusion that deca durabolin would be best and safest (side effects vs results)

First off bro, you need to get out of your head the notion of safest in that sense. If you are going to use AAS, you need to do it right. Running Deca by itself is foolish, and no more "safe" then running test along with it. Deca is the kindof drug you want to run in conjunction with a higher androgenic drug, you don't want Deca to be the staple of your cycle. Start out simple and pick a test ester to run such as enanthate and run soem Deca or EQ with that. A safe steroid cycle is one that is calculated and planned out, one that you are not abusing the drugs or taking unessary risks, and you have some sort of post cycle game plan, but to throw off your bodys homeostasis for really no benefit is foolish IMO. Don't pussy foot around the situation, you are either using or you are not. Its not some supplement that you can kinda be on and off, you have to be disciplined or you are wasting your money.

i live in canberra in australia and what dosage to take ive heard if its your first time that you should gradually buid up the dosage over 8 weeks then have a break.

P{yramiding is a horrible idea and is a complete waste of time and effort. You can start out with a higher dose but your blood levels need to be constant. Either way, the dose that you are running is going to be however many times greater than yoru natural hormonal level, so your production is going to shut down, whats the point of starting with a small dose that is going to inhibit production and yet only be theraputic? Pick a dose and run with it, forget pyramiding. Also I would shoot more for like 12 weeks on, but thats just my personal preference. good luck

 

[deeno]

very well said gr8

i've never understood the concept of 'pyramiding..', i guess ppl assume that u 'work your way up' to a steady dose and gradually work your way down, that way it doesnt harm natural hormone levels, as your body is getting gradually used to high levels, thats what i thought before i knew anything about juice, but the truth of it is if your gonna shut ur self down may as well get maximum results from it from a solid dosage the whole way through instead of half assing it...

penger, i wouldn't run deca on its own, talk about shrinkage and a limp un', definitely run test, recognise the importance of diet..stack deca or whatever else u see fit, personally if 9 out of ten ppl told me to do 'cycle a', i would still do mad research. Personally, i'd feel better knowing what i was injecting into my ass and what it'll do to me. good luck

 

[gr81]

newbies (no offense meant) think along the lines that, well they want to do steroids, but they wanna keep it "safe" so they are just gonna take a mild anabolic they read about and just use that, thinking that stacking two or more drugs together is going to be "less safe". In reality you need to be as efficient as possible and stackin drugs together for a cycle is extremely beneficial in ones goals, not necessarily less safe. You start jeopardizing safety when precautions are not taken and drugs are abused or used recklessly.

personally if 9 out of ten ppl told me to do 'cycle a', i would still do mad research.

^Exactly! This right here is the perfect quote to tell someone, b/c no matter what anyone says, take it for what it is and do the resaerch yourself. Everyones got a different opinion and just as he said, don't you want to know as much as you possibly can before you start injecting strange substances into your body? I would. peace man

 

[BoneCrusher]

I am heading in the same direction with phenoplix. I don't know what to stack it with though. The sides are purported to be the normal liver, gyno,and nads.

 

[Mudge]

You would hardly expect to get gyno from trenbolone. Liver? No. Nads, for me hell yes, like deca it hits my HPTA instantly, where test in some people there will be some LH and FSH for longer periods of time, but with fina in the mix I must have HCG period.

Test + fina I love, deca I could care less about.

 

[BoneCrusher]

Thanks Mudge. Mind if I bug ya for more ideas on what to stack in a month or 2 when I get serious?