High school and Div 2 college ball doesnt test for roids? If your going to need a bunch of "stuff" to get you to the "next level"...it aint gonna happen.
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hobster said:So heres the deal. I play baseball and throw around 83. I want to get my fastball up, but I want to stay cut on my abs, gain mass in chest,legs and also get mass on my arms but still have them cut up too. I have have been researching and asking around about different products. It boiled down to M1T, winstrol, and d-bol. But, I'm leaning more toward the winstrol and M1T. But I'm not gonna stack them. If I was gonna stack, then it would probably be with creatine. Which one would be best for my situation, and would it affect my stamina in a positive or negative way, not to mention would it get my fastball up there too? Thanks!
personally i'd go with the dbol, best out of those 3 for strength and mass, will be hard to keep the gains though, winny won't do a lot on its own, i don't think the cost to gain ratio of m1t is worth it, but thats JMO, i'd personally look into running test if you're serious about things
alright thanks, jus one more question. I'll get on d-bol or sumthin this summer, so school ball wont be in season and I wont have to worry bout roids showin up on a test. but after I get off a 6 week cycle, say i get tested a week later. Will anything show up? im new to the anabolic stuff if u cudnt tell.
i'm not totally sure, i think Mudge might know, i know dbol has a very short half-life so the drug will be out of your system pretty fast, but your hormones are still going to be recovering on PCT so they might notice that something is up? like i said 1 of the mods should be able to give you a straight answer
dbol only is pointless. Almost everything you gain will be water, which you will piss out during PCT.
I have spoken to people that have made fairly good gains on 6 week dbol only cycles, in the region of 8-10lb of muscle. I'm not saying its gonna give the same results as a test base cycle but for a substitute for pHs i think its viable.gococksDJS said:
But he's considering M1T or dbol, both of which are anabolic steroids, so why not just run test?stu21Ldn said:
gococksDJS said:
i agree with Stu, for a 6 week cycle i'd run dbol over any PH or PS, yeah you'll hold a lot of water but all this bullshit about losing ALL of your gains from dbol is just silly, you will lose water weight when you come off but solid muscle built on cycle will not just dissapear, whether you put on muscle with dbol or test or any other AS, keeping your gains is gonna depend on a solid pct, and i don't think running test is worth it for only 6 weeks unless its prop or suspension (neither of which interest me yet due to the ED/EOD injections)
Doing an oral anabolic cycle because your afraid of needles is like knocking your tooth out with a hammer because your afraid of the dentist. The hepatotxicity of dbol is far greater than injectable test, which is why you only run it for 4-6 weeks, and young d I never said you would loose all your gains. With dbol, most of your weight gain is from water. I put on a lot of weight in 4 weeks of dbol, but not nearly as much muscle as i have with test, and with dbol, you can't compare the amount of weight your gaining to the amount of muscle your putting on because it's mostly water. The guy also said he wanted to remain cut but still put on muscle and you will not stay cut or cut more on dbol, you will be bloated. I felt like I was pregnant the whole time I was on it. If your going to run 6 weeks of an oral anabolic like dbol, why not just stretch it 4 more weeks and run a 10 week test cycle? You will see far better strength gains without nearly as much water retention.stu21Ldn said:
Test suspension will clear your body in a matter of days, a week at the most. But its noted for often being painfull (Jurox is described as shooting shards of glass), and you have to inject at least once a day if not 2-7 times depending how anal you are.
If you had enough time to let it clear your system, you could run either enanthate or cypionate which aren't known for their pain like prop or suspension.hobster said:
Mudge said:
with all that said I am shocked anyone would use the stuff. The ONLY way I could see myself using it is for like last minute boost for a powerlifting competition.
Anyone ever hear of a little blue pill that disolves in your mouth? Someone talked to me today and told me a story of their friend that took it. He said his friend went up 60lbs in bench in 2 weeks. I found that a little hard to believe.
