Dbol/ai questions

[Rdub9281]

Alright so I've been taking 25 mg of test each day, pre workout. Also, 300 mg of test E a week. My question is, if I do 5 weeks of dbol, but 14 weeks of test, how do I pct off the dbol? Do I just stop taking at 5 weeks, then hit the pct when I'm done with the full cycle of test? Also, I kno some people will freak out about this, but I'm not taking an ai. I've been told with such small doses of both test and dbol it won't b a huge deal. I'm 2 weeks in and have no sides, other than I feel bigger and stronger, but feel I'm losing a bit of tone, but gaining size. I would assume this is because of water retention, is this normal? And when it fades will I still b "bigger" without the water weight? And my question is, half the people seem 2 think certain amounts of estrogen is essential 2 gains, because u retain water easier so an ai isn't a must for small doses of the dbol. Others, seem 2 say u have 2 have an ai, usually aromasin, or the estrogen will ruin ur gains, and give u bad side affects. What is everyone on here's personal opinions on the matter? And also some people say aromasin makes them "dryer/leaner, which makes sense 2 me right now because like I said I feel bigger, but less toned. If I'm going 2 get some I need 2 ASAP I'm 2 weeks in, so let me kno wut u think.


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[TouaregV8]

Alright so I've been taking 25 mg of test each day, pre workout. Also, 300 mg of test E a week. My question is, if I do 5 weeks of dbol, but 14 weeks of test, how do I pct off the dbol? Do I just stop taking at 5 weeks, then hit the pct when I'm done with the full cycle of test?

I'm assuming that you meant to say you are taking 25mg of dbol each day, pre workout. No, since you will continue taking the test there is no concern for PCT after stopping the dbol. Start your PCT 2-3 weeks after your last shot of test.

Also, I kno some people will freak out about this, but I'm not taking an ai. I've been told with such small doses of both test and dbol it won't b a huge deal. I'm 2 weeks in and have no sides, other than I feel bigger and stronger, but feel I'm losing a bit of tone, but gaining size. I would assume this is because of water retention, is this normal? And when it fades will I still b "bigger" without the water weight?

At those dosages you probably do not need an AI, but I would still have one on hand during your cycle just in case you start experiencing estrogen related sides. Some guys see the sides at just a TRT dose, others can tolerate over a gram and still see nothing. You are correct, you are seeing less tone due to the bloat of the dbol. Retaining your gains is dependent on proper PCT, diet, and training.

And my question is, half the people seem 2 think certain amounts of estrogen is essential 2 gains, because u retain water easier so an ai isn't a must for small doses of the dbol. Others, seem 2 say u have 2 have an ai, usually aromasin, or the estrogen will ruin ur gains, and give u bad side affects. What is everyone on here's personal opinions on the matter?

I always have an AI and a SERM on hand during every cycle. I do not take an AI/SERM unless I'm experiencing estrogen related sides. In my opinion some guys abuse these ancillaries and take them needlessly. I've never heard of estrogen "ruining" your gains. Look into Arimidex, it's less expensive than Aromasin.

And also some people say aromasin makes them "dryer/leaner, which makes sense 2 me right now because like I said I feel bigger, but less toned. If I'm going 2 get some I need 2 ASAP I'm 2 weeks in, so let me kno wut u this?

This is totally up to you, some guys don't mind a little bloat during cycle (myself included), others do. I'd still make every effort to have something on hand just in case. You should never start a cycle until you have everything you may need on hand.

 

[Rdub9281]

Yes I did sorry thought I put that in there. And ok sounds good


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[Rayjay1]

Definitely have some Aromasin or Adex on hand, and get a SERM as well. Tamoxifen would be a good SERM to have in case you get gyno flaring up.

You our really should have these on hand before you ever start a cycle. You could grow a pair of tits before they arrive if you only order them once sides start to show up and you'll chase estrogen for a while before it goes back down.

Best of luck. Hopefully you'll be ok. I get gyno very very easily and need an AI immediately even at low doses so cross your fingers you aren't like me

 

[Rdub9281]

Well like I said had my buddy order everything that's been at this for years, and he said I wouldn't need it but I'm more cautious than him apparently. No signs yet been in the dbol for a week and 5 days. Also my sex drive is down lately, would that b from the estrogen?


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