Deadlift reps?

[DeadBolt]

I know while deadlifting once you complete the first rep you gracefully drop the weight but do not bounce once going into the next rep. My question, would it be better to completely stop the weight and pause while taking another breath then begin pulling or just lowetr the weight gracefully (not slowely)w/o bouncing then lifting again and manage the breath and keeping the form all in one solid motion?

 

[Flex]

i just hit the ground and bring it up in one motion. i dont bounce it, but more of like touching it, then exploding off.

 

[zakk]

Originally posted by Flex
i just hit the ground and bring it up in one motion. i dont bounce it, but more of like touching it, then exploding off.

 

[X Ring]

it depends what you are doing deads for
If you goal is more over all endurance do what Flex said, if you want to develop more explosive power, put the weight down under you own control (not dropping it, just as you would for endurance) pause for a second or two to kinda reset and pull like a mo fo!!

 

[CowPimp]

Try using multiple methods. Today I did deadlifts with a really long negative and fairly slow positive. It provided a nice pump and really made me feel it. Just make sure you keep your back in the proper positive the whole time if you use this method.

 

[gopro]

When I deadlift there is a 100% complete stop at the bottom of the rep. There is no bounce or even a light touch and go. I do not want even the slightest momentum to help me with my next rep. There is a solid 1 second break before I begin to move the weight again.

 

[DeadBolt]

Kewl everyone thanks for the responses, I paused for about a second today and it worked fine for me, only the second time I've ever done em before. I like them alot!

 

[derekisdman]

Originally posted by CowPimp
Try using multiple methods. Today I did deadlifts with a really long negative and fairly slow positive. It provided a nice pump and really made me feel it. Just make sure you keep your back in the proper positive the whole time if you use this method.

I didn't even think deadlifts had a negative movement that was usefull.

 

[DeadBolt]

Originally posted by derekisdman
I didn't even think deadlifts had a negative movement that was usefull.

Yea I always read it was bad for negatives on a DL. You always wanted that explosive thrust up, but I did one slowely on the way down and sure did feel it.

So is it bad for the negatives on a DL?

 

[X Ring]

oh it is if you want it to be, you should give it a try its not bad once in a while

 

[X Ring]

I wasnt talking to your deadbolt, it isnt bad to my knowledge. Form is key here if you can get it up the positive the negative wont kill you

 

[Yanick]

its kindda what you want to work for. if you are training for power all you want is the concentric motion, there is really no eccentric motion to the deadlift (i do a sort of controlled drop). I guess for bbers you could slow down the negative, and go for more hypertrophy.

 

[CowPimp]

Originally posted by derekisdman
I didn't even think deadlifts had a negative movement that was usefull.

It seems to me that my legs got more of a workout than normal. As well, my lower back was burning (In a good way). Granted, DLs are primarily used for a power lift. I just thought I would try something different. I can't see it hurting anything...

 

[Big Smoothy]

Originally posted by X Ring
I wasnt talking to your deadbolt, it isnt bad to my knowledge. Form is key here if you can get it up the positive the negative wont kill you

I have always been afraid of a deadlift negative. For some reason, I think it could hurt my back, even if lowered properly. I just do a controlled drop.

 

[Jake]

I do a slow negative on DL's. I like it, I find it forces me to think about form a lot more. I pause on the bottom too. Take a breath, and then inhale and exhale when I am pulling. I really do it just to concentate on breathing since I had developed this terrible habit of holding my breath when dead-lifting... use to go purple and feel like I was going to pass out.... ah, the good old days.

 

[Arnold]

I am not saying whether or not you should or should not pause...

but, since you pause at the bottom of your deadlifts do you also do this on benchpress and other movements?

I could not imagine bringing the bar to my chest on every rep of benchpress and pausing for 1 second.

 

[Mudge]

I pause on deads and squats quite often, more on deads. I think for me its a mental thing, sometimes it might be getting my grip back, or re-positioning my back. With legs its usually a cardio thing.

My negatives are normal to slow, I do NOT drop the bar. I dont know why people do that, on a max effort I could see it but I still consider that a half rep, so I dont do that.

 

[Saturday Fever]

Watch someone do deadlifts for rep. Watch their form deteriorate rep by rep until they look like an injury waiting to happen. I wouldn't ever do more than 3 reps per set with deads.

 

[derekisdman]

Originally posted by Saturday Fever
Watch someone do deadlifts for rep. Watch their form deteriorate rep by rep until they look like an injury waiting to happen. I wouldn't ever do more than 3 reps per set with deads.

If you used lighter weight though I would imagine you could hold form better for higher reps...

 

[M.J.H.]

Watch someone do deadlifts for rep. Watch their form deteriorate rep by rep until they look like an injury waiting to happen. I wouldn't ever do more than 3 reps per set with deads.

Agreed.

 

[Saturday Fever]

Originally posted by derekisdman
If you used lighter weight though I would imagine you could hold form better for higher reps...

I imagine you'd be wasting your time. What are you trying to do, get massive spinal erectors?

 

[derekisdman]

Well you just commented on higher reps and bad form so I was just saying how that could be prevented.

 

[CowPimp]

Originally posted by Saturday Fever
I imagine you'd be wasting your time. What are you trying to do, get massive spinal erectors?

Don't forget that deadlifts also heavily stimulate your legs; in particular the quadriceps. Of course, squats are much better for that, but I still like doing higher reps sometimes for a change of pace and variation of stimuli. Also because I workout at home and my available back exercises are pretty limited.

 

[Deeznuts]

I'd say go the same as Flex...and for best strength/muscle gains on deadlift i've noticed a pyramid system works best. (Decreasing reps, increasing weights each set.) Just my opinion though.

 

[Mudge]

I have come to like very heavy deads with low # of sets for myself, one or two sets 5 reps would be on the high side.

 

[DeadBolt]

Thanks for all the replies everyone!

I don't have the option to go lighter w/ more reps b/c the routine doesn't allow that. So I go heavy to the point I can keep my form w/ a slight pause after each rep, just for a breath. But I don't feel it in my lower back the same as when I do something like heavy hyper extentions. I thought maybe I was using to much leg but I really wasn't at all. I felt it as I lifted and for a little bit afterwards but my lower back isn't sore. My lats and traps are sore still and I love it but my lower back I dont feel it as much.

Also when doing deads after a while of dong them besides strength what physical features should I notice changing on my body? Like basicly the lower back muscles getting larger? Is it like working other muscles like tri's where you see the horse shoe shape coming then the size growing or is it like all the little tiny muscles in your upper back that just grow a little but nothing to notice unless your bf% is low enough?

 

[Mudge]

Hypers or good mornings will hit the lower back harder, deadlifts are much more compound. Your whole backside + traps should improve with deads, just like you are feeling it, thats where it hits. Lower back is not hit much with it.

I use SLDL on leg day 1-2 sets for my lower back, but will switch to good mornings on back day for 1 set.

 

[Big Smoothy]

Originally posted by Mudge
....My negatives are normal to slow, I do NOT drop the bar. I dont know why people do that, on a max effort I could see it but I still consider that a half rep, so I dont do that.

I am going to ease up on the weight and start doing negatives. I think not doing them is a minor fear, and it isn't warranted.

 

[Mudge]

Just keep your head high and your abs "out." I think dropping the weight quickly while going down with it is more likely to get someone hurt than controlling it.

 

[Big Smoothy]

Thanks, Mudge.