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Deadlifts for Hamstrings

The Rose

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Yesterday I was in the gym doing straight leg deadlifts for my hamstrings. This is where I actually bend at the waist (thereby bend my back) when the barbell is lowered to my ankles. I guy came up to me and told me to keep my back straight (which is also known as a straight leg straight back deadlift). I told him that this was an inferior exercise because it is more of an isolation exercise whereas the straight back deadlift is a compound movement. He disagreed with me. What do you think?
 
First of all, tell him to mind his own fooking business.

For the exercise you were doing, bending your back is correct.
 
I have to disagree, if you keep your back stiff you will isolate your hams better. If you want to do reguler deads then bend at the waist and knees.
And I would also tell the guy to mind his own business, he may have been right but I never give advice unless it is asked for or I see someone doing something that may result in an injury.

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Can't never did nothin,(Dedicated to my father)
 
OK, take your pick I guess. I've got two books: "Ulitimate Bodybuilding" by Joe Weider, and "The Encyclopedia of Modern Bodybuilding" by Arnold Schwarzenegger. Joe says bend your back, Arnold says keep it straight. I think those two guys should battle it out in a steel cage match to see who is right.

I've always bent my back. But what the hell do I know?
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And regarding the free advice the guy gave, if I wanted help, I'd ask or do some research. I'd never listen to any of the morons who go to my gym (especially the personal trainers!).

<FONT COLOR="#000002" SIZE="1" FACE="Verdana, Arial">[Edited 1 time by I Are Baboon on 07-29-2001 at 05:49 PM]</font>
 
Prince, stiff leg dead lifts target your lower back more than anything! Please note I do not bend my knees at all, only my waist and hips.

<FONT COLOR="#000002" SIZE="1" FACE="Verdana, Arial">[Edited 1 time by The Rose on 07-30-2001 at 10:21 AM]</font>
 
I think if you bend your back, you increase your chance of injury.
 
I keep my back straight with a little arch if possible. Mainly because I'm older, and if I bend my back you'll hear it pop from across the gym, but only if they turn that "RAP" music down a little. Keep it straight while you're young so you won't have to baby it when you get older.
JC

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Originally posted by The Rose:
Prince, stiff leg dead lifts target your lower back more than anything! Please note I do not bend my knees at all, only my waist and hips.
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I agree with Prince, not locking your knees or any joint for that matter is a given, your asking for a injury otherwise. I also do stiff legged deads for my HAMS. I do reguler deads for my lower back.



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Originally posted by The Rose:
Prince, stiff leg dead lifts target your lower back more than anything!
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Yes, they do work your lower back, but the main target of this exercise is your hamstrings.



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Just because the majority believes it, does not make it true!
 
I disagree with you Prince. The main target of stiff legged deadlifts are the erector spinae. The main target of straight leg or straight leg straight back deadlifts are the hamstrings. See the following website.
http://www.exrx.net/WeightExercises/ErectorSpinae/BBStiffLegDeadlift.html

Compare then with the following sites. http://www.exrx.net/WeightExercises/Hamstrings/BBStraightLegDeadlift.html http://www.exrx.net/WeightExercises/Hamstrings/BBStrBackStrLegDeadlift.html



<FONT COLOR="#000002" SIZE="1" FACE="Verdana, Arial">[Edited 1 time by The Rose on 07-30-2001 at 08:38 PM]</font>
 
are you serious?

I'm sorry, Straight leg Deadlifts.

I did not realize that we were differentiating on the words "straight" and "stiff".
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Just because the majority believes it, does not make it true!
 
Prince, I guess different people use different terminology, but notice that the straight leg deadlift on the site requires you to bend at the waist thereby bending your back which is what you said not to do earlier.
 
Originally posted by The Rose:
Prince, I guess different people use different terminology, but notice that the straight leg deadlift on the site requires you to bend at the waist thereby bending your back which is what you said not to do earlier.
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Sorry for butting in but wouldn't these be called (Good Mornings)


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Can't never did nothin,(Dedicated to my father)
 
Originally posted by Charger:
Sorry for butting in but wouldn't these be called (Good Mornings)
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*** Good morning would be when you place the bar on your back (7th vertabre) and flex at the hips.

I'm confused here. Bending the back would require one to round their back, doing this would transfer the weight onto the ligaments and other tissues surrounding the vertabre.



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We can always count on TheRose to bring up a controversy...

The only muscle group that should be trained with a rounded back is abs, remember that.

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Complex problems have simple, easy to understand, wrong answers.
 
Supreme, I am not making up the bending of the back controversy. Go check out the website I posted under straight leg deadlift. The guy performing the exercise bends his back/waist during the movement.
 
Originally posted by TheSupremeBeing:
The only muscle group that should be trained with a rounded back is abs, remember that.
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Agreed.



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Just because the majority believes it, does not make it true!
 
Okay Prince, then if you pay close attention to the straight back deadlift example, the person actually bends his lower back and waist. I think you really mean the straight leg straight back example!
 
If your not going to keep your back straight then don`t do this exercise cause your just going to end up with back problems.
 
Originally posted by new1shmoo:
If your not going to keep your back straight then dont do this exercise cause your just going to end up with back problems.
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I totally agree, for any new people that may be reading this, PLEASE KEEP YOUR BACK STRAIGHT AND YOUR HEAD UP!!!!
I would also suggest to wear a belt while doing any standing back exercises.
If you don't, your just asking for trouble.


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Just another day in the gutter
 
Originally posted by Scotty the Body:
I would also suggest to wear a belt while doing any standing back exercises.
If you don't, your just asking for trouble.
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*** Wearing a belt for extended periods of time can be detrimental.

Isn't it ironic that it is suggested to wear a belt to protect oneself while performing movements that aid in strengthening the body in everyday activities?

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<FONT COLOR="#000002" SIZE="1" FACE="Verdana, Arial">[Edited 1 time by Maki Riddington on 08-07-2001 at 08:57 PM]</font>
 
Ok ok, let me elaborate a little more on my OPINION on wearing a belt.
I personally wear one when I'm getting close to my max on say deadlifts. I've found that I can lift more weight safely than without.
I use to only do like 225lb and I wore a belt as it was close to my max, now I don't strap it on till I'm over 315lb, so I don't wear it through my entire workout, just when I'm near my max.

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Just another day in the gutter
 
I do the same,I may not even need it but I feel better using it when I lift heavy,squats&deads.

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Can't never did nothin,(Dedicated to my father)
 
I find it amusing how if you say something is your opinion regardless of how ridiculously idiotic the statement is it can't be wrong, because well it's just your opinion!

Bahaha.

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Complex problems have simple, easy to understand, wrong answers.
 
TSB, that is why you cannot understand. My opinion is what (I) believe to be right. But since I now I am not always correct I am also willing to hear other peoples opinions. Wheather I agree or not, I (respect) that persons right to voice there opinion.
Someday you will also learn there are almost always more than one right answer to most problems, that applies to most things in life. Life is not like a text book.

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