Dianabol/Proviron cycle.

[goldy]

Hey
I am waiting for some dianabol and Nolva and Im trying to get some Proviron.

I was thinking of doing the cycle like this:
week1: dbol 30mg / Proviron 50mg
week2: dbol 30mg / Proviron 50mg
week3: dbol 30mg / Proviron 50mg
week4: dbol 30mg / Proviron 50mg
week5: dbol 30mg / Proviron 50mg
week6: dbol 30mg / Proviron 50mg

PCT
20mg nolvadex 4weeks. And during cycle if needed.

Do this look okey to you guys? Do you have any suggestions for me? I know inject is way better but it is not a possibility for me at this moment.

--Goldy

 

[raysd21]

I never thought of doing this really....

But make sure your proviron is legit for sure man. I would take 100mg-150mg a day of proviron going against dbol. But that is just me.

I would also maybe take a nice OCT during cycle therapy with milk thistle and arimistane at least. You have the nolvadex just in case. Arimistane and proviron might be enough of an AI for 30mg dbol. Good luck.

 

[goldy]

Yeah 100 would probably be better, but I already blown my budget trough the roof
So arimistane for PCT or during dbol cycle? or both?

Thanks man for reply!

 

[raysd21]

Arimistane can be used for both during cycle and PCT.

 

[Glycomann]

IDK.. looks like someone is trying to do an oral cruise to me. Depending on where you are in your use and experience it will probably fill you in some and harden you a little bit. Eat clean and time your carbs right and you can look pretty good. if you're a naturally lean guy then eat more carbs.

 

[goldy]

Yeah I know that I should stay away from oral only. Only did one really bad dbol cycle before that´s all. I would like inject but it is not possible at this point, just moved to a new country and do not know the right people.
This is to bulk up, im between 190 and 200 now and wanna reach 225 before years end.
Just trying to do the best that I possible can with this oral only cycle. I think the proviron help me with the bloat and maybe a bit against gyno. And 30mg dbol should be enough for second cycle. My first i took 30mg dbol from rotex and thats like 10mg maybe. Now I have better stuff.

Just wanna gain as much weight and strength as possible and keep as much as possible of it.

 

[raysd21]

Why don't you take some 1-andro or 4-andro with the dbol and proviron. Those are very good oral synthetic test products and legal by the way. That will help alot. 50mg of proviron just isn't enough in my opinion.

 

[goldy]

yeah sounds good, wont it put a lot of pressure on my liver with 3 orals though?

 

[goldy]

What do you think about, [h=1]N2Guard?[/h]

 

[raysd21]

Bro, neither 1-Andro or 4-Andro are methylated.

Proviron is not toxic. Dbol is not even that bad. Not as bad as superdrol or anadrol. You are fine.

Either one will make your cycle a very good cycle. Safe too.

 

[goldy]

Okey im gonna go for, 4-ANDRO Rx. Is 1tab/ED enough? Im going to do 6weeks of dbol, how should I take the andro? with the dbol for 6 weeks aswell or longer?

 

[goldy]

also I will have 150 tabs of 25mg proviron, so I can take 75mg for 50 days? So should I do that or take 50mg for a longer time?
Do I need proviron from the beginning of the cycle or should I wait a week or two, so i have it for my PCT?

Thanks so much for the replies so far!

--Goldy

 

[goldy]

Any respons? I will probably get my geer soon.

 

[powerlifter83]

If money is an issue then you need to wait. Sound like the dudes at the gym..."hey bro, how big can I get with $150"? In my opinion, a test only cycle would be superior and probably cheaper. But do what you like.

 

[raysd21]

also I will have 150 tabs of 25mg proviron, so I can take 75mg for 50 days? So should I do that or take 50mg for a longer time?
Do I need proviron from the beginning of the cycle or should I wait a week or two, so i have it for my PCT?

Thanks so much for the replies so far!

--Goldy

Since proviron is fast acting start it in week 2. That way dbol and 1-Andro will have a chance to build and you can save some for a week into pct.

 

[heckler7]

You'll bloat claim you gained 16 lbs lean muscle probably get a puffy nipple. Lose it all 10 weeks after cycle. That is a typical cycle with no test. Enjoy

 

[goldy]

You'll bloat claim you gained 16 lbs lean muscle probably get a puffy nipple. Lose it all 10 weeks after cycle. That is a typical cycle with no test. Enjoy

This is such a bullshit claim.
I know that this is far from the best way to go and you will bloat on Dboll but I know plenty of people who did dballs and got good results from it. As long as you keep going hard in gym after and eat correct and a lot you can keep much of what you gained.

Thank you raysd21 for all your help.
I got the prov from Euro-Pharmacies and from what i have read it seems to be legit stuff.

How much of the 4-andro do you reccon i should take? It says 1 pill/ED is that enough or should I bump the dosage?

 

[heckler7]

just telling it straight, dbol is best as a kicker to a real cycle one with test about 500- 1000mgs a week. I'm sure all the people you know, which I doubt are any, have made amazing gains and those gains are gone now. I use dbol all the time but listen to me

 

[Oldschool]

This is such a bullshit claim.
I know that this is far from the best way to go and you will bloat on Dboll but I know plenty of people who did dballs and got good results from it. As long as you keep going hard in gym after and eat correct and a lot you can keep much of what you gained.

Doesn't sound like you know how Danabol works or you wouldn't say this.
Look: when you stop steroids you loose the gains.
When you stop an oral you loose them faster.
You can argue with these vets all day long but they are telling you the truth.

 

[goldy]

Of course you will lose some of the gains. But telling me that i will lose all of my gains from a dboll cycle is just plain stupid. I have done dbolls before and i know for a fact I did not lose all the gains I made from it, especially not the straight gains.

Im not naive, i know testo is much better but please be realistic you can make some decant results from dballs as well.

 

[heckler7]

^^ you will lose all your gains fact

 

[goldy]

Well just have to see after the cycle I guess I will keep you guys updated. I will keep a journal and post results every week.

 

[raysd21]

1-Andro converts to 1-testosterone. This will be his testosterone. Although I'm not sure goldy knows he needs to take around 600-800mg to see the best results. For 6 weeks of 1-Andro at 800mg he will need about 2 bottles which will cost around $70. Not bad. About the price of 10mls of TE250. It's negligible. I say good luck with it goldy. 1-Andro, dbol, and proviron and some AI is all you need. If you run a good pct and eat and train your ass off during that pct you might keep some of those dbol gains. Just don't rely on them to stick around. Count your blessings if you keep say 2lbs after 6 weeks. Your 1-Andro will be your main focus for lean retainable gains.

 

[goldy]

Okey sounds good, i will get 2 bottles at least then..
Is 1andro better then 4andro? I can get 4bottles of 4andro for the price of 3 so I could split that with a friend. But if you think 1andro works better then 4andro i will get that.

 

[raysd21]

1-Andro converts to 1-test. 4-Andro converts to test. 1-Andro does not convert to estrogen. 4-Andro does convert at a small rate. Which is better? I don't know. I know you have to take around 800mgs of 1-Andro. Find someone on here that ran 4-Andro and ask them. Spinyvegeta has a lot of knowledge on this shit. Ask him. I'm not sure how many mgs you need to run of 4-Andro. There is a reason why I like to run straight injectable test. I don't have to worry about conversion rates...

 

[Oldschool]

Well just have to see after the cycle I guess I will keep you guys updated. I will keep a journal and post results every week.

It's not the cycle journal that would be important but a journal that extends well beyond the end of your "cycle."
Like I said, best of luck to you.

 

[heckler7]

your should run an AI with DBol proviron isnt an AI

 

[goldy]

your should run an AI with DBol proviron isnt an AI

Is it really necessary on 30mg of dbol?

 

[heckler7]

Dbol aromatizes and will cause gyno

 

[goldy]

yeah that is true but I should not build up that much esto on 30mg? And I have the nolva on hand if needed. Also it?s not good to block all the estrogen which a AI would do.