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Dianabol/Proviron cycle.

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Also I think the proviron helps a abit against the gyno, its not a AI i know but what I read from it it helps to some degree.
 
Proviron will bind to SHGB making free test and total test much much higher and also stopping some of the estrogen conversion. It will make the 1-Andro or 4-Andro way more effective.
 
provion is used to mainly boost libido on a heavy suppressive cycle IE Deca, it has a very weak anabolic effect and is barely effective as an AI. just saying
 
Proviron helps reduce the effects of tren sides too.
 
OK so I got my stuff :)
Its 10mg dianabol pills so I will take it 2 or 3 times ED. 10mg with first meal and 20 with second meal before work out. or 10-10-10 but I dont know if i wanna take it to late, i workout around 6-7 and then I would take my last pill at like 10-11 do you think thats to late?
Also how many pills of the 1-andro should I take to reach 600mg? It says 1 pill is 50mg I think and that would mean 12pills and that sounds way to much?
 
The only 1-Andro I've seen is Finaflex. 168mg pills. I can't tell you how many pills to take. Don't even know what brand you have. I don't even want to try and figure that shit out. That's why I stick needles in my ass. One and done.

Just start the damn dbol at 2 pills a day every 6 hours. Work up to 3 if you want. This cycle is not going to be the be all end all of cycles. It's really gonna depend what you make of it and how your body responds to the compounds. Just pay attention to your chest glands and nipples . Cause dbol converts pretty hard to estro if it is properly dosed. But you may not have to much of a problem since the proviron helps and the 1-Andro does not convert.
 
Oh shit I got the IronMagLabs and it says
1-androstene-3bol, 17-one 50mg
6,7-dihydroxybergamottin 15mg

I know you dont like this idea of a cycle, believe me I do not either :) just trying to the best of what I have now and I do appreciate the help I get. And my next cycle will be inject my friend is doing his first inject now so he will help me when I need it.

It gets super expensive for me though I got 4 bottles and thats 20 days if my calculations are correct. hmm
 
Yeah I don't know why the IML are only 50mg. Jesus that's like 15 pills a day....

How many pills does it say are in a serving on the bottle?
 
as a dietary supplement take one or two capsules twice daily.
Fuck these 4 bottles wont be near enough and it was 112 dollars :S Well I guess i have to finish these then get some finaflex.... I might be able to sell 2 of these and get finaflex to, its so much cheaper lol 60tabs of 160mg for the same price....
 
Okey so I will start today:
dbol - 20mg/ED @ 10mg, 4pm and 10mg, 10pm
1-andro 300mg/ED @ 150mg, 4pm and 150 mg, 10pm

I will start with Proviron after week 1 @ 75mg/ED

I will run this for 1 week to feel it out and after 1 or 2 weeks I will probably boost 1-andro to 600mg it just got way more expensive then planed (so stupid of me to dont look up the other brands) But i srsly could not ever believe the difference could be that huge :/
 
Good thing you are not taking any animal supps right now.

The chances of choking to death during this cycle are high already!
 
From all the tabs you mean? :D Yeah i know its a lot i guess, gets a bit better when i get the finaflex. What do you think about the cycle otherwise? I know you dont like it but for being a oral only?
 
Honestly if it's what you want to do.... It all depends if you take enough 1-Andro. 1-Andro is a solid product. It's just the conversion rate for that stuff is not really quantifiable. 800mg minimum is what the doctor orders.

Just fucking eat a ton. And do a little cardio to offset some of the extra calories. Or try to nail in your diet perfectly. How do you measure your food? For me instead of measuring out sticky starchy cups of rice. I just eat corn tacos. 1 tortilla has 52 calories and 12 grams of carbs. Fucking easy as hell. Get a fucking scale. Measure out 8 oz of chicken. Bam you are done. 4 tortillas...2oz each one. Whatever. Once you have the 8 oz weighed out it don't fucking matter. Or do 3 tortillas and 6 ounces of chicken. Do that if you want to be more conservative and not worry about cardio. 6 ounces of chicken is about 280 calories and 50 grams of protein. Do that 3 times a day with one protein drink supp and you are right on the money. Drink one slow absorbing protein before bed and you are golden. That's 1300 calories with the 3 taco dinners. Then whatever your protein drinks are. Fucking simple. Depending on your BF% you will put on about....10-15lbs of muscle.
 
provion is used to mainly boost libido on a heavy suppressive cycle IE Deca, it has a very weak anabolic effect and is barely effective as an AI. just saying

In my mind proviron is best used with test only cycles. That is where proviron shines. It makes free and total test way higher in the body. I've seen people taking 600mg of test a week with proviron score over 5000 on total test. Add that to the added AI benefit and the libido boost, it is a spectacular drug for what it does. Trust me bros. I by it bulk in powder. It is more expensive than Tren A and just as expensive as fucking anavar Mg for Mg. Don't knock proviron.

You can take less Test on cycle and not worry about gyno or dht conversion as much. That is huge. Plus you get small AI and good libido for that horny significant other.
 
In my mind proviron is best used with test only cycles. That is where proviron shines. It makes free and total test way higher in the body. I've seen people taking 600mg of test a week with proviron score over 5000 on total test. Add that to the added AI benefit and the libido boost, it is a spectacular drug for what it does. Trust me bros. I by it bulk in powder. It is more expensive than Tren A and just as expensive as fucking anavar Mg for Mg. Don't knock proviron.

You can take less Test on cycle and not worry about gyno or dht conversion as much. That is huge. Plus you get small AI and good libido for that horny significant other.
never scored over 3000 even when I'm on 1G a week of test
 
[h=2]Component Results[/h][TABLE="width: 652"]
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[TH]Component[/TH]
[TH]Standard Range[/TH]
[TH]Your Value[/TH]
[/TR]
[TR="class: odd, bgcolor: #DFF3C5"]
[TD="class: nameCol srchbl"]TESTOSTERONE, ULTRASENSITIVE, LC MS/MS[/TD]
[TD="class: infoCol"]250 - 1100 ng/dL[/TD]
[TD="class: importantCol"]5557[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="bgcolor: #DFF3C5"]
[TD="class: nameCol srchbl"]Testosterone free[/TD]
[TD="class: infoCol"]35.0 - 155.0 pg/mL[/TD]
[TD="class: importantCol"]2335.9[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]
 
Component Results

[TABLE="width: 652"]
[TR="bgcolor: #DFF3C5"]
[TH]Component[/TH]
[TH]Standard Range[/TH]
[TH]Your Value[/TH]
[/TR]
[TR="class: odd, bgcolor: #DFF3C5"]
[TD="class: nameCol srchbl"]TESTOSTERONE, ULTRASENSITIVE, LC MS/MS[/TD]
[TD="class: infoCol"]250 - 1100 ng/dL[/TD]
[TD="class: importantCol"]5557[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="bgcolor: #DFF3C5"]
[TD="class: nameCol srchbl"]Testosterone free[/TD]
[TD="class: infoCol"]35.0 - 155.0 pg/mL[/TD]
[TD="class: importantCol"]2335.9[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]
WTF, from an IM sponsor, I gave up on getting good gear here, I'm working on a script
 
It would be a whole lot easier to just pin test...and idk how your body will react to it, but I always lost 80% of my gains when I did oral only cycles. Youll realize eventually its a waste of time and money. Dont matter how hard you work in the gym post cycle, youre still gonna lose your gains.
 
Honestly if it's what you want to do.... It all depends if you take enough 1-Andro. 1-Andro is a solid product. It's just the conversion rate for that stuff is not really quantifiable. 800mg minimum is what the doctor orders.

Just fucking eat a ton. And do a little cardio to offset some of the extra calories. Or try to nail in your diet perfectly. How do you measure your food? For me instead of measuring out sticky starchy cups of rice. I just eat corn tacos. 1 tortilla has 52 calories and 12 grams of carbs. Fucking easy as hell. Get a fucking scale. Measure out 8 oz of chicken. Bam you are done. 4 tortillas...2oz each one. Whatever. Once you have the 8 oz weighed out it don't fucking matter. Or do 3 tortillas and 6 ounces of chicken. Do that if you want to be more conservative and not worry about cardio. 6 ounces of chicken is about 280 calories and 50 grams of protein. Do that 3 times a day with one protein drink supp and you are right on the money. Drink one slow absorbing protein before bed and you are golden. That's 1300 calories with the 3 taco dinners. Then whatever your protein drinks are. Fucking simple. Depending on your BF% you will put on about....10-15lbs of muscle.

Yeah I will do my best, I think that I will gain a lot just because I will stay way more motivated and I can train way more during the cycle too. 1500 cal sounds way low to me though im trying to bulk up a bit. And my (basal intake?) is like 3200. so thats -1700 every day.
I have a scale, and I'm going to get all the food for next week :)
Oatmeal and egg as breakfast. Dont know how much yet but 3 eggs at least.
Then 2 big meals with rice or pasta with chicken or ground beef.
Have serious mass so gonna take like 1/3 of a serving after workout.
Omega 3 with breakfast and BCAA during workouts.
 
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It would be a whole lot easier to just pin test...and idk how your body will react to it, but I always lost 80% of my gains when I did oral only cycles. Youll realize eventually its a waste of time and money. Dont matter how hard you work in the gym post cycle, youre still gonna lose your gains.

I know that I should do inject and if i do an other cycle I will for sure. But to be honset after my last dbol cycle most people told me it looked like had grown 6-8 weeks after my PCT so I don't think I lost way to much. But again this is far from perfect and I do the best with what I have right now. I will bump the 1-andro up to 600mg/ED after my first week, I just sold 2 cans for 80buck to a friend and will get 2 bottles from finaflex. 600mg should give me a decant boost in test with the proviron.
 
It would be a whole lot easier to just pin test...and idk how your body will react to it, but I always lost 80% of my gains when I did oral only cycles. Youll realize eventually its a waste of time and money. Dont matter how hard you work in the gym post cycle, youre still gonna lose your gains.
exactly what this guy said
 
Ok now im on my full amount, 600mg andro / 20mg dianabol / 75mg proviron
 
anyone have any experience of OSTAR1NE in PCT along with nolvadex?
 
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