DNP/Best Fat Burner/Cutting

[rontg]

i'm sick of everyone saying your gunna die if you take dnp, yeah people have died from it, but of those people which ones were found with rec drugs or a high blood alcohol content, if your smart , stay hyrdated and don't over do it you'll be fine.

 

[gococksDJS]

i'm sick of everyone saying your gunna die if you take dnp, yeah people have died from it, but of those people which ones were found with rec drugs or a high blood alcohol content, if your smart , stay hyrdated and don't over due it you'll be fine.

Also, if your smart you know that over do and over due are different things. This isn't a library book, its DNP.

 

[Tha Don]

Also, if your smart you know that over do and over due are different things. This isn't a library book, its DNP.

lol

its BBing's deadliest supplement, i doubt anyone smart would actually run DNP!

 

[rontg]

happy now, by the way "young d" i think many non-steroid users would say the same thing about steroids.......

 

[gococksDJS]

happy now, by the way "young d" i think many non-steroid users would say the same thing about steroids.......

Ignorance about steroids and warning someone about the dangers of a drug are two different things.

 

[rontg]

there are dangers in most any drug...period!

and who says your not being ignorant about dnp?

 

[Tha Don]

there are dangers in most any drug...period!

yes but not all drugs have death on the list of 'common short-term side effects'

 

[simbh]

Its an argricultural pesticide called Dinitrophenols

In humans its acts as a potent fat burner. Its not exactly amateur stuff - It has caused serveral deaths.

Good enough not to make me take this.

 

[rontg]

thats your decision, most likely a good one and we are lucky enough to be able to make our own.

 

[assen666]

Hi guys!
I am a biochemist.
I just wanted to give you some tips about using 2,4-DNP.

1. Start dosage NOT exceeding 0,25 mg/kg for at least 3-4 days (10 lbs=4,53 kg)
2. SLOWLY increasing the start dosage, ONLY in cases of lack of strong side effects. (
3. NO diuretics! No caffein, ephedrine or synephrine! No T3 or T4!
4. SMALL amounts of beta-blockers (better selective), for example 25-100 mg atenolol.
5. Drink much water.

 

[rontg]

Hi guys!
I am a biochemist.
I just wanted to give you some tips about using 2,4-DNP.

1. Start dosage NOT exceeding 0,25 mg/kg for at least 3-4 days (10 lbs=4,53 kg)
2. SLOWLY increasing the start dosage, ONLY in cases of lack of strong side effects. (
3. NO diuretics! No caffein, ephedrine or synephrine! No T3 or T4!
4. SMALL amounts of beta-blockers (better selective), for example 25-100 mg atenolol.
5. Drink much water.

1. Agree
2. Agree
3. Caffeine isn't that much of a diuretic. Ephedrine is need to keep lethargy at bay, why not T3 or T4? I would say obviously no alcohol or rec drugs. Caffeine, ephedrine, and T3 are find IMHO.
4. Agree
5. STONGLY AGREE

 

[Revolution Max]

Good Info

 

[Tha Don]

so which is the better option for fat loss

a little DNP, or a lot of clen/eca?

if DNP is used at a very low dose would it still have a strong effect promoting fat loss?

i'm not considering taking it BTW, just interested to see whether a little DNP would be an economicly wiser choice

 

[Supermans Daddy]

I tried what I thought was DNP. It could not have been accord'n to what everyone has ever told me bout it. I did'nt sweat, was'nt hot and gained a pound. I even sat in tha sauna wit a plastic suit on.I got ganked.

 

[assen666]

1. Agree
2. Agree
3. Caffeine isn't that much of a diuretic. Ephedrine is need to keep lethargy at bay, why not T3 or T4? I would say obviously no alcohol or rec drugs. Caffeine, ephedrine, and T3 are find IMHO.
4. Agree
5. STONGLY AGREE

Well, having in mind that DNP dilates blood vessels and the (mild) diuretic effect of caffeine is due to blood vessel dilation (of the renal vessels) then small amounts of ot would not do much harm, but large doses (over 200 mg 2-3 times daily for example) are not recommended.
I myself would not do any ephedrine while on DNP. Of course it could keep lethargy at bay, but I think I would try to save my liver as ephedrine is slowly metabolized in the liver by oxidative deamination, demethylation, aromatic hydroxylation, and conjugation. Try to avoid ANYTHING that is metabolized in the liver especially such substances that are taken in larger doses. In cases of sleep disorders.......nothing else but alprazolam (Xanax) 0,25-0,5 mg right before going to bed.
Why would you need T3 or T4? The lower levels of sTSH, sT3 and sT4 are feed-back regulated. Ok, you want to keep your thyriod hormone levels normal, but it can easily be overdosed thus increasing sweating and glycogenolysis (higher liver damage risk).
And.......do NOT forget! Drinking alcohol is the worse one can do to one's liver while on DNP. And you probably would like to have a drink after your DNP cycle........well, then NO ALCOHOL!!!!! I am NOT joking!

 

[rontg]

Well, having in mind that DNP dilates blood vessels and the (mild) diuretic effect of caffeine is due to blood vessel dilation (of the renal vessels) then small amounts of ot would not do much harm, but large doses (over 200 mg 2-3 times daily for example) are not recommended.
I myself would not do any ephedrine while on DNP. Of course it could keep lethargy at bay, but I think I would try to save my liver as ephedrine is slowly metabolized in the liver by oxidative deamination, demethylation, aromatic hydroxylation, and conjugation. Try to avoid ANYTHING that is metabolized in the liver especially such substances that are taken in larger doses. In cases of sleep disorders.......nothing else but alprazolam (Xanax) 0,25-0,5 mg right before going to bed.
Why would you need T3 or T4? The lower levels of sTSH, sT3 and sT4 are feed-back regulated. Ok, you want to keep your thyriod hormone levels normal, but it can easily be overdosed thus increasing sweating and glycogenolysis (higher liver damage risk).
And.......do NOT forget! Drinking alcohol is the worse one can do to one's liver while on DNP. And you probably would like to have a drink after your DNP cycle........well, then NO ALCOHOL!!!!! I am NOT joking!

I want to thank you for the mature and informative response, something a lot of people lack the ability to do. Great info. thanks again

 

[assen666]

I want to thank you for the mature and informative response, something a lot of people lack the ability to do. Great info. thanks again

you are welcome

All antioxidants that were mentioned are suitable. I just want to add that beta-carotene and co-enzyme Q10 are good too.
I would take 500 mg ascorbic acid (vitamin C) twice daily, beta-carotene 10 mg daily, alpha-lipoic acid (ALA) 200-300 mg twice daily (R-ALA 100-200 twice daily), Q10 30 mg daily, some vitamin E (alpha-tocopherol) as it cannot be overdosed and drink green tea. Do not take vitamin C together with the other antioxidants.

 

[Tha Don]

you are welcome

All antioxidants that were mentioned are suitable. I just want to add that beta-carotene and co-enzyme Q10 are good too.
I would take 500 mg ascorbic acid (vitamin C) twice daily, beta-carotene 10 mg daily, alpha-lipoic acid (ALA) 200-300 mg twice daily (R-ALA 100-200 twice daily), Q10 30 mg daily, some vitamin E (alpha-tocopherol) as it cannot be overdosed and drink green tea. Do not take vitamin C together with the other antioxidants.

care to elaborate?

i currently take 1000mg vit C, multi vit, b complex and 300mg ALA w/ breakfast

 

[assen666]

care to elaborate?

i currently take 1000mg vit C, multi vit, b complex and 300mg ALA w/ breakfast

As ascorbic acid (vitamin C) can reduce other substances I do not recommend to be taken together (especially with B-group vitamins). It is nothing dangerous, but both ascorbic acid and the other(s) substance(s) become inactive.

 

[Tha Don]

As ascorbic acid (vitamin C) can reduce other substances I do not recommend to be taken together (especially with B-group vitamins). It is nothing dangerous, but both ascorbic acid and the other(s) substance(s) become inactive.

ah i get ya

i'll take my vit c and b complex at diff. times then, thanks