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Originally posted by craig777
Yep, I had a few of the weirdos here email me asking where I have been.![]()
Originally posted by Rob_NC
I have and will continue to spank both of my kids if needed. Just last weekend, the family and I were at a store trying to make some important decisions. The kids were wandering around all over the place. Soon it became too much. After repeated scoldings, most of which were ignored, I planted my hand squarely across their asses. The problem was solved. They dared not move more than 5 feet from either of us.
I usually use a smack on the butt as a wake up call. These people that say you need to reason with a child obviously have never had children. A child's mind isn't mature enough to entirely comprehend reason.
Originally posted by I Are Baboon
My father used to hit me for stupid shit, and he wondered why I would flinch when he walked behind me.
Originally posted by Rusty
he he......sounds like my dad..........
So here you guys are again saying,,, your kids flinching in fear of you is a good thing. You flinched when your dad walked by so it "must" be acceptable. I suppose it is if that is all you knew. I find it really sad.
My kids don't fear me. They don't lie to me because they know they can tell me anything without the fear of pain. They make a mistake or do something stupid, it is explained why they shouldn't do whatever it was and told not to do it again for that reason. I could give you 100 examples.
one story just came to mind, Last year my oldest son was having a little chattering problem in school. He was told not to talk in class during lessons because he not only misses what is going on but he is causing the person he is talking to miss it too. After the second time, he was warned do not think of doing it again and if he does he better tell me as soon as school gets out. I told him I better not hear it from a teacher first. Well sure enough,, there was a 3rd incedent. He came out of school and told me immediately that he talked in class again and the teacher said his Name out loud telling him to be quiet. For one week he was in bed at 19:00 and was grounded to the house with no friends games etc for a whole weekend. He was given extra chores for 2 weeks also. Let me tell you,, I haven't heard one report on that kind of behavior from him the rest of last year or one report this year.
I straighted that one out without even raising my voice.
Originally posted by I Are Baboon
My mom would use whatever she could get hands on. A belt, a spoon, a spatula, a stick, a broom handle.When she'd break a spoon on my ass, it'd very hard not to laugh. Lauging always just pissed her off more. My mom is a small lady and the "beatings" never hurt.
Originally posted by buff_tat2d_chick
YES!! I do believe in spanking. However, I limit its use. I can't even say what age I stop spanking because it depends on the child. My kids are very polite and have wonderful manners. When we go eat out as family we ALWAYS have several comments on how good and well behaved they are...epecially for there being 5. I teach respect and always piont out the rude assholes (like mma was saying) when the adults can't say "thank you" I always used that as a learning curve and remind the kids how it felt not to be acknowlegde and to make sure they don't act like that.
Back to the point. Spanking is necessary IMO. I have spanked with a belt before, but haven't in years. Hasn't been necessary. I do feel it can get out of hand so I am careful to monitor how I feel and make sure I am not sooooo angry that I am going to "beat" the child. In that case I go and cool down and address it when I am calmer...they usually still get the spanking if it was necessary. My 3 year old only gets an occasional "tap" on the butt...she still thinks its the end of the world, so its very effectiveThe reason I am so careful about my mood when I discipline is that my Dad used to beat my ass (no where else) and leave marks, bruises and welps. He couldn't control his temper....even with that backround I still feel spanking is a tool for discipline.
Originally posted by firestorm
OK this is exactly why I never hit my kids. I was also banged up alot as a child by both my mom and dad. I remember how I felt. I remember the fear. I remember being afraid to tell my mom and dad ANYTHING! ............................... but seriously for these reasons and the emotional scars they left taught me to not follow (as many do) in my parents footsteps.
Originally posted by firestorm
Ok I've just read the LAST POST on here that I care to. (Again about using a belt). What the Fuck!!! How stupid can you people be? It isn't about the amount of PAIN you inflict on a LITTLE child (and I stress the word LITTLE) it is ANY action of discipline showing your disapproval or disapointment in them that makes them respond. A "love tap" with a hand (If you feel you MUST PHYSICALL strike your child) pounds home the same point without physically harming your child with a damn piece of leather. Any child psycologist will tell you that is overkill and down right child abuse!!!! Totally not necessary in the least.
Originally posted by dvlmn666
OK, no I don't have kids but I have friends who do. Now fire dude, you are big enough your kids probably know when you raise your voice it's serious. But from what I've seen from friends they try all the reasoning, and time outs and take this and that away and there kids are still the biggest brats I've ever see.
But when I raise my voice they listen just due to the fact they are intimidated by me and I'm not even a parent.
I'm not saying kids should be beat, but if they don't respect there parents after they have tried all the other methods. Then fuqin give them a spanking, they will learn to respect you then. Now don't over use the spankings, but strategically placed and at the apropriate times I beleive they are deserved and should be used.
There are many ways to dicipline children, but just like training in the gym, what's good for one guy isn't necessarily good for the next.
Originally posted by firestorm
I hear what your saying my friend but I'd hardly compare child raising to the gym. You are dealing with little people and their personalities not iron or innerself for that matter.
You have children ???????????? WOW..........Originally posted by david
I prefer other methods besides spanking such as timeouts or in the corner.
I make it a game. They go there for 30 mins... graduate and are allowed to sit and watch TV thereafter with me dictating what they can watch. Such as I'll throw a learning tape in. They MUST watch it! If they don't they recieve 10 mins back in TO or the corner.
However, if they misbehave in TO or the corner, I'll keep adding 10 more mins....
They end up behaving real nicely!
I agree with you that everyone is different, my oldest hated standing the corner, so that was his punishment, my daughter rarely had to be punished because she always sent herself to her room(LOL), her punishment was having to listen to me explain what was right and what was wrong, she still plugs her ears, haha, and my youngest is my hardest, he has to be the center of attention, he's a real character, so his punishment is timeouts in his room on his bed, for 1 minute of his age, and if he talks or opens the door, he gets 1 min added, he's actually stayed in there for 21 minutes b4 and that was when he was 3, as I said b4, I have spanked my children in fear, but always held them and cried with them while explaining safety, it's only been when they were doing something to threaten their life, just last night, my daughter swung her bike into the middle of the road, did I spank her, hell no, she's 8, I took her bike away for a week, children need to be accountable for their actions, she also has been acting out on the bus, so she is not allowed to sit with her best friend, this entire week...........she thinks it's HELL week with Mom, but she will learn not to do these things again....this is a really good thread, also with my oldest all I had to do was threaten to call his father, and his whole attitude changed......my youngest have not experience their Dad being around, so I can't use that on them..........but threatening to call Auntie has a similar affect on them,,, heheOriginally posted by dvlmn666
There are many ways to dicipline children, but just like training in the gym, what's good for one guy isn't necessarily good for the next.
Originally posted by firestorm
True,, thier minds are not mature yet so why hit them for it? Having your (not You directly ROB) children "fear" you isn't good either. All I can say (and like I said, I have 2 boys), is getting your children to respond to you can be done without hitting.