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ALBOB said:That entire article revolves around this assumption, "If the editorial writers of the New York Times are talking about a new draft that would send young men and women to die in the deserts of Iraq fighting crazy religious fanatics, then the idea is certainly being whispered about in the upper echelons of American society". Paragraph two, sentence one. If/then. The problem is it's a faulty assumption. Just because the NY Times is up in arms about something does NOT mean the entire U.S. Defense Department is taking action about it. The two are unrelated.
Robert DiMaggio said:I just like to post a lot of political rhetoric and crap to stir shit up and piss off die hard Republicans like yourself.![]()
ALBOB said:What a freakin' day. I have to agree with Mr. Snafu right out of the gate. I should probably just go home and go back to bed, it's just gonna be downhill from here.![]()
What did Lincoln do to be so great?DOS Forever said:My Political Opinions:
Fuck the democrats, the republicans and everyone in between. Almost all of them are career politicans who have/would sell their soul to their parties ideals and agendas to get (re)elected. There are exceptions....given
What we need to do is to form a revolution and establish myself as a benevolent dictator of the US(because I know what's best for everyone).
What ever happened to presidents like Jefferson and Lincoln? They were some of the greatest men ever to walk the Earth and now we have a choice between 2 mouthpieces for their respective parties and monetary contributors. Ya, wahoo, it inspires me and gives me confidence in the democratic system (see above).
dg806 said:What did Lincoln do to be so great?
That is a highly perceived myth. If you look at numbers (and I don't have them) The North had as many or more slaves than the south. That whole war was not about slavery.Robert DiMaggio said:I think he ended slavery.
dg806 said:That whole war was not about slavery.
dg806 said:That is a highly perceived myth.
Dale Mabry said:I feel a draft coming right now, must be the one coming from Alboob's ass. Nasty old bastard.
maniclion said:I heard the Peace Corps was going to have a draft.
Du know this as a no-way-but-this-way kinda deal. With Bush as our Prez for another four ... we will not leave Iraq. We will not pull back, yield and inch, or back away a single foot. Not until we have sucked every drop of oil out of that sand will we move on.du510 said:I dont believe that. I think the government will just create better incentives to join. Not only higher pay, etc, but also slowly pulling out of hot zones, working with international forces, etc.
dg806 said:That is a highly perceived myth. If you look at numbers (and I don't have them) The North had as many or more slaves than the south. That whole war was not about slavery.
From USA Today
As these U.S. troops mass outside Najaf, the Pentagon said that some soldiers' Iraq tours have been extended three months.
By Saurabh Das, AP
Through March 17, nearly halfway through the fiscal year, the Army fell about 1,000 short of meeting its goal of keeping 25,786 soldiers whose enlistments were ending or who were eligible to retire. That works out to a 96% retention rate.
Last year, the retention figure was 106% because more soldiers stayed than the Army had planned. The retention goal assumes that not all eligible to stay will remain.
Military personnel experts have warned that full-time soldiers and members of the Guard and Reserve could begin leaving this year because of the strains of service, including longer and more frequent overseas missions. Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld acknowledged Thursday that the Defense Department will extend duty in Iraq beyond one year for 20,000 soldiers. Their time in Iraq will grow as much as 90 days.
"We regret having to extend those individuals," Rumsfeld said. "The country is at war, and we need to do what is necessary to succeed."
You start shit with someone and then question my "deal"? I think you should be able to answer your ignorant question all on your own.
Lion,maniclion said:Well with a 1/3 of recalled Reservists not showing up, what's next?
Bill Summary & Status for the 108th Congress
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H.R.163
Title: To provide for the common defense by requiring that all young persons in the United States, including women, perform a period of military service or a period of civilian service in furtherance of the national defense and homeland security, and for other purposes.
Sponsor: Rep Rangel, Charles B. [NY-15] (introduced 1/7/2003) Cosponsors (14)
Related Bills: S.89
Latest Major Action: 10/5/2004 Failed of passage/not agreed to in House. Status: On motion to suspend the rules and pass the bill Failed by the Yeas and Nays: (2/3 required): 2 - 402 (Roll no. 494).
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COSPONSORS(14), ALPHABETICAL [followed by Cosponsors withdrawn]: (Sort: by date)
Rep Abercrombie, Neil [HI-1] - 1/7/2003 Rep Brown, Corrine [FL-3] - 1/28/2003
Rep Christensen, Donna M. [VI] - 5/19/2004 Rep Clay, Wm. Lacy [MO-1] - 1/28/2003
Rep Conyers, John, Jr. [MI-14] - 1/7/2003 Rep Cummings, Elijah E. [MD-7] - 1/28/2003
Rep Hastings, Alcee L. [FL-23] - 1/28/2003 Rep Jackson, Jesse L., Jr. [IL-2] - 7/21/2004
Rep Jackson-Lee, Sheila [TX-18] - 1/28/2003 Rep Lewis, John [GA-5] - 1/7/2003
Rep McDermott, Jim [WA-7] - 1/7/2003 Rep Moran, James P. [VA-8] - 1/28/2003
Rep Stark, Fortney Pete [CA-13] - 1/7/2003 Rep Velazquez, Nydia M. [NY-12] - 1/28/2003
Rep Norton, Eleanor Holmes [DC] - 1/28/2003(withdrawn - 6/21/2004)