ECA effects

[kuso]

Is it possible to get a bad effect on an eca that you have been using for awhile??

I take mine only on lifting days ( three times a week ) and have used the current one for several weeks now with no problems.

Today though.....did everything as usual, was feeling great until about 20min after taking it, and started getting really sleepy and couldn`t stop my hands from shaking also just felt like all the strength and energy had been sucked out of me....had a shyty workout too

I did everything the same as always.....on Monday had a great workout without problem......

Could this just be a strange reaction to the eca???? It`s 4 or 5 hours now since I took it and feel great once again.....no strange feelings or anything.

 

[Fade]

I've never had the shakes from it but sometimes when I take it it'll make me feel tired.

 

[seyone]

I only feel tired after it wears off. the worst I ever get is a little hyper from it, never had the shakes either.

 

[cult_status]

Kuso,
I'm like you, I take ECA before my workout, 2 or 3 times a week & maybe Saturday nights out.

I've always found it gives a boost for training, especially helpful after a day's grind.

I've not suffered with your symptoms, but I was taking it 2¼ hrs b4. I've just changed to 1 hr b4 (took it about 5pm) and that night couldn't sleep! I've always considered myself to have a high metabolic rate (5'9", 150lbs) so maybe I need to think about taking it earlier.

I am thinking about changing to a morning workout so this may suit me better?

ECA gives me the boost to train harder. Taking it gives my routines more intensity & my muscles really feel it the day after.

Maybe there was something in your diet that day which had an adverse effect on the Ephadrine? Anybody else any ideas?

 

[frostyballz]

I usually feel a little tired after it wears off. I get bad headaches sometimes too.

 

[KryptoAllez]

My experience:

Fat burners make me feel sick, as in nauseous, weak & shakey if I take them and haven't had enough to eat.

They make me twice as tired/sleepy after they wear off than when I'm not taking them.

 

[Dr. Pain]

Originally posted by KryptoAllez
My experience:

Fat burners make me feel sick, as in nauseous, weak & shakey if I take them and haven't had enough to eat.

They make me twice as tired/sleepy after they wear off than when I'm not taking them.

Back to our "blood sugar", hypoglycemia discussion! They will have a more pronounced effect with low serum glucose....possibly the effect you described!

Try to mimic conditions that offers the effect you like, meals, timing, etc, each time you take them. They will become less efective over time as you build a tolerance, and slowly fry your adrenals and central nervous system! (semi kidding)

One last note..if you are ADD or ADHD...yes, they will put you to sleep!


DP

 

[BUSTINOUT]

Originally posted by Dr. Pain
One last note..if you are ADD or ADHD...yes, they will put you to sleep!


DP

...sometimes.

 

[PulsatingArt]

eca stacks make me sweat for a while, which is a good thing if the goal is to lose fat, but they also give me the shakes, which is a bad thing since i'm a tattoo artist and it is very important that my hands are not shaking and quivering. but i happen to be very sensitive to stimulants as it is, and i wont' even drink a soda on days that i have to work, due to the caffine in them.

 

[Robboe]

Originally posted by kuso

I take mine only on lifting days ( three times a week ) and have used the current one for several weeks now with no problems.

Well if you've been using for quite a while then DP is prolly right, your adrenals are exhausted.

The EC cause release of the catecholmines (type of neurotransmitters) adrenalin [also called epinephrine] and noradrenalin [also called norepinephrine] and you can deplete them over time from too much stimulation from outside influences - in this case, ECA. It also messes with neurotransmitters like dopamine, which can also be depleted. Thus, you start to feel run down and lethargic.

The catecholmines precursors are aminos acids phenylalanine for noradrenalin and tyrosine for dopamine. So if you eat foods with these aminos high in the profile (like cheese, or my fav, cottage cheese) you can restore them or maybe stop them from falling in the first place. You could also consider the use of supplemental aminos but it's not really necessary.

Incidentally, if anyone has something that need clear mental focus for, eating cheese or cottage cheese is a good idea of a food to eat a few hours before hand.

 

[Mudge]

So far I've noticed that I sweat more, although its pretty warm here lately even at night I end up sweating.

Other than that I have no significant energy boost (even 1.5x dose), although I think maybe I notice something. It seems I am immune to just about everything, I get no monster boost like I hear about from other people

 

[Robboe]

Originally posted by Mudge
So far I've noticed that I sweat more, although its pretty warm here lately even at night I end up sweating.

Yeah, and so you should. Eph increases body temp by 2% right?

(clenbuterol is supposedly 10% and DNP 30%, i think).

Other than that I have no significant energy boost (even 1.5x dose), although I think maybe I notice something. It seems I am immune to just about everything, I get no monster boost like I hear about from other people

Get some L-tyrosine and take 2g with it. This may help.

What kind of dosing are you using, and what ECA you using?

 

[Robboe]

Re: Re: ECA effects

Originally posted by The_Chicken_Daddy

The catecholmines precursors are aminos acids phenylalanine for noradrenalin and tyrosine for dopamine.

Just to point out, this sentence could be worded better, cause both phenylalanine AND tyrosine are both precursors for noradrenalin and dopamine.

That is all.