Ephedra (ma huang) vs Ephedrine HCL! which is better?

[BillytK03]

Ive asked this before but never really got a definitive answer to this question!

ma huang vs ephedrine hcl........ lets rock!!!

 

[sawastea]

Please read over this thread. It should guide you to your answer.

 

[bigss75]

Im all for Ma Huang over ephedrine hcl. HCl usually has a bunch of other junk like Guaifenesin in it which gives alot of people headaches plus I don't feel the "buzz" with ephedrine.

 

[BigPapaPump68]

Ma Huang

 

[BillytK03]

I agree so far with ya guys! I feel the "buzz" and energy rush with ma huang! With ephedrine hcl I dont feel a buzz or energy rush, I do feel warmer and a nice sustained energy level but it doesnt make me want to tear up the weights like the ma huang does tho!

Swas! that is the best thread I have ever read regarding Ephedra/ephedrine! I am actually going to print this out and keep for reference! good looking out!

 

[bigss75]

Yeah Sawastea's post was extremly interesting in reguard to the each of their effects on the CNS and SNS. Another mass monster is here I thought I was the only one.

 

[BigDyl]

So ephedra/ephedrine is harmful?

 

[sawastea]

So ephedra/ephedrine is harmful?

It can be, if taken improperly. If taken with precaution, and not abusing it, it is an excellent thermogenic, especially when stacked with EGCG and ALCAR.

 

[BillytK03]

I only take it once on workout days just for the energy rush it gives me!

 

[topolo]

I love ephedra

 

[viet_jon]

I love ephedra

same here......always feel like ripping the weights on it.

a quick question to anyone ........ what's the best eca stack brand?

i been using muscletech's and love it, but now can't get access to the ephedra one's....only ephedra free(and they suk like crap btw), what others are good/strong? xenadrine anygood?

 

[sawastea]

same here......always feel like ripping the weights on it.

a quick question to anyone ........ what's the best eca stack brand?

i been using muscletech's and love it, but now can't get access to the ephedra one's....only ephedra free(and they suk like crap btw), what others are good/strong? xenadrine anygood?

The problem nowadays is that the 'new' FDA serving size is 10mg where before it was 20mg. That, and the fact that the companies ROSE prices with lower doses equals a very bad 'deal.'

I prefer pure ephedrine HCL, stacked with caffeine.

 

[BigDyl]

The problem nowadays is that the 'new' FDA serving size is 10mg where before it was 20mg. That, and the fact that the companies ROSE prices with lower doses equals a very bad 'deal.'

I prefer pure ephedrine HCL, stacked with caffeine.

So 24 mg ephedrine + 200 mg caffeine.


That sound good?

 

[viet_jon]

where do u get ma huang off the net? i only see hcl

 

[viet_jon]

Please read over this thread. It should guide you to your answer.

good information.

but it's kinda messed up. I have anxiety and related stuff, but ephedra makes me normal.......weird

 

[sawastea]

So 24 mg ephedrine + 200 mg caffeine.


That sound good?

Considering the BOLT caps are 25mg, yes, three-eight mg servings, in addition to 200mg caffeine, is an ideal stack, based on the proper (and proven) ratio.

Of course, it also depends on how YOU react to this, so even though it's "ideal," it may be too much for one to handle.

As with all thermogenics, drink upwards of 1.5-2 gallons of water daily.

 

[BigDyl]

Considering the BOLT caps are 25mg, yes, three-eight mg servings, in addition to 200mg caffeine, is an ideal stack, based on the proper (and proven) ratio.

Of course, it also depends on how YOU react to this, so even though it's "ideal," it may be too much for one to handle.

As with all thermogenics, drink upwards of 1.5-2 gallons of water daily.

I did 12 mg's epherdrine hcl + 100 mg's caffeine to access my tolerance.


For the first hour I felt like I was on coke. Now i've calmed down a bit, but I still feel the stimulation.

Should I continue with this dose, or up it?

 

[BigDyl]

Do I take it on an empty stomach? Because I took it right before I ate breakfast.

 

[sawastea]

I did 12 mg's epherdrine hcl + 100 mg's caffeine to access my tolerance.


For the first hour I felt like I was on coke. Now i've calmed down a bit, but I still feel the stimulation.

Should I continue with this dose, or up it?

Stay at this dosage for a few more days if you're reacting like this. Each serving should be taken AT LEAST 4 hours apart, as that is ephedrine's half-life.

Do I take it on an empty stomach? Because I took it right before I ate breakfast.

Ideally, yes, it *should* be taken 30min prior to a meal and/or exercise.




Please read this thread that I created.

The Basics of the ECY Stack

Granted, EY has been shown to NOT work favorably, the questions that you may have, are answered within.

 

[Scary]

Is there a reputable place to get some? Everyplace I tried last week was sold out. i.e. Vasopro

 

[sawastea]

http://www.ironmagazineforums.com/showpost.php?p=1374868&postcount=12

Check out the hyperlink

 

[theoldeagle]

Where can you get plain ephedra? I dont want anything else in it. I can intake my own caffiene, and want to as well. I plan to go on the ECA stack soon.
Thanks.

 

[sawastea]

You can't get plain ephedra. You can get plain ephedrine HCL, and take your caffeine with it. Follow my link in post #21