Fighter needing advice on anavar and stack

[colorado]

No. This is not good.

First off, injecting on a daily basis it really going to hurt your range of motion in your legs until that injection site has had time to heal. You'll be in Jiu-Jitsu class wishing that you could die. Secondly, what are your gaols? you claim that you walk aroung at 210 and fight at 170. That's going to get really hard to get back down if you start to take this route. Thirdly, and most importantly, it doesn't sound like you have very much experience with steroids. You were stacking two orals at the same time with no test.
If you walk around at 210 and you still have the ability to cut down to 170 then you need more work on your diet. You are probably carrying too much body fat. This is going to get worse when you start cycling if you don't have your diet under control.


I don't lose my cardio while on Tren Ace. I do lose flexibility in my legs from the injection sites that I use when I rote injection sites. Others do lose their cardio much worse than myself.

Here's the ticket for you. Stop everything you're doing and research more. If your natural Test production shuts down.... Good luck. Get your diet in check and start with a single (maybe 2) injections of Test E per week. Get on a solid AI and then use a good PCT regiment afterward.

 

[ismhmr]

Thanks. and I do not have much experience. Your advice is the best so far.

So I should just start for two shots of test per week? How long should I cycle on that?

Man I am confused.. haha... What does AI and PCT mean?

 

[colorado]

Here is a good cycle for you:

500 to 600 mg/week of Test E or C. You can take this in one shot but most would recommend that you split this up into 2 shot a week. Honestly, it's up to you.

You HAVE to read up on AI's and PCT. Please do NOT start a cycle until you have this fully understood. There is a lot of good info on these in the sticky section. If you don't use an AI you are going to start holding a lot of water. It's likely that you'll miss weight. PCT is going to make sure that you are able to bang all of the bitches that you are going to get after you win the belt. YOU HAVE TO LEARN THIS.

I am a purple belt in BJJ and I've done Muay Thai for the past 3 years. I know what your body is going through. It's important to not take a steroid that will give you muscle pumps or too much water retention. At the same time you don't want to be too dry. Try getting armbarred while on Winstrol. You're going to want to rip your own arm off to give it to him. It's not fun

Either way, doing a cycle should be about your health. It can be a wonderful thing for you or it could be a nightmare. Ensuring that you fully understand what you are putting in your body can make this a good experience for you and keep your fighting career on the right path.

 

[ismhmr]

Sounds good.. Now ah... What is a good AI and PCT? Can you link me to a good section to read up on those more?

Also how long should I do the injections for? 4 weeks? 6 weeks? How long off?

 

[TGB1987]

Yes run Test cyp or enanthate like colorado described. Now for an AI I would recommend Aromasin. Take it at 12.5mg eod at first and you can increase it up to 25mg ed if you need to. PCT take aromasin and Clomid for 4 weeks. Clomid at 100/100/75/50 mg ed Aromasin at 25/25/25/12.5 mg ed . Do you want to use HCG or not? It is up to you. Colorado gave good advice in both of his posts. Tren will sacrifice cardio IMO without a doubt. You do not want to risk that. Anavar would be a good oral that you could use with test if you can afford it. Var will add strength increase cardio, and not add water weight or slow you down. I would only use Test C or E with anavar. The anavar is not needed if you do not want to spend the cash on it. Good luck send me a highlight reel of your fights.

 

[ismhmr]

Sorry, if I am lagging behind.. But like colorado guess, I am new to this.

Just to get it straight, you are recommending 500 to 600mg a week of Test E or C for 4 weeks, then for Post Cycle take Clomid and Aromasin together for 4 weeks? deducing the doses as the weeks go by correct?

I am also thinking of taking a little anavar every day, maybe 20mg each day while taking the test.

Also how soon after the post PCT can I start back on the Test and anavar?

Thanks guys, I appreciate all of the help.

The highlight reel is almost done, when it is, it will be on youtube.

 

[TGB1987]

Ok I didn't know you wanted to do a short burst cycle. Use Test prop instead of test C or E because it will kick in much faster. You have to inject at least e3d but eod would be better. It will kick in much faster run this for 6weeks at 300-500mg a week. If you take the test e or c it doesn't reallly kick in for 3-4 weeks. Use anavar the whole cycle at least 50-100mg ed to get good results. You could run this cycle for 4 weeks but 6 weeks would be better. Then run PCT and take another 4-6 weeks off and repeat.

 

[colorado]

If you only have 4 weeks before your fight I would forget about the whole thing. UNLESS.... You plan on running the cycle past the fight and for a full 10-12 weeks.

You simply aren't going to know how you are going to react to these drugs. 4 weeks from now you may be more worried about bitch tits than you are the guy across from you in the ring. If I look across the ring and my opponent has really bad acne on his back, I may call bullshit. You simply don't know.

Test P would be better for a 4 week blast from a bodybuilding point of view. But trust me, you aren't going to be wanting to fight feeling like that. I will second the Anavar though. I feel really great while on and my strength goes way up.

You have months of studying and research before you you even get to the beginning of being ready for steroids.

My recommendation is that you wait. If you have gotten to the point that you have a shot at the belt, do it naturally. It would be a shame if you did steroids and it actually hurt your performance. You'd be several fights away from getting a second shot.

 

[TGB1987]

This is good advice as well and something to consider.^

 

[ismhmr]

Hahaha, well the thing about it, last summer doing the oral anavar and winstrol, I didn't have any sides, and I didn't get too tight like you mentioned, I was still very flexible with no change in that, and actually fought with that and did great. I practice contortionism every day, so I think it helps.

A few months after that, I tried the injectable winstrol alone.. It hurt like hell, but it worked, and besides hurting.. There were no sides I just got stronger and more cut.

My fight isn't until the end of May. So I think I am just going to cycle Winstrol and Anavar again and in the meantime do more research on the other stuff. Perhaps I will even add a little clen to see how it effects me. A champion bodybuilder told me to do just a little of that every other day. So it should be okay.

Thanks guys, all of the advice is really helping.

 

[sub-mariner]

yo yo,,,do i need nolavdex if im gonna do anavar and winsterol? also wats a good dose to take for my first time,,im going to thailand 2 morrow,i keep fit,but have not been training in muay thai for 3 years? recomended dose would be apreciated?? thanks

 

[ismhmr]

Assuming you are doing orals, Start out with 50mg of each per day. If injecting I would keep it to 30-40mg, and no you don't need that other stuff.

 

[TGB1987]

Dont run orals without test.

 

[sulli174]

i would stay away from the winny for performance reasons it relly dries out your joints might want to try masteron or primobolone both are available in an oral form but injectable are more potant. also materon acts as aa mild AI if running test or tren.

 

[sulli174]

i am by no means an expert on the subject but i think i would run test prop at 75 mgs a day masteron at 75 mgs eod and 30 mgs t-bol ed if you can't afford the anavar.