finishing things up, first cycle

[Movin_weight]

Damn it was just getting good too.

I walk into every situation skeptical. Within 12 weeks ive managed to stay about the same weight(leaner) and gain strength. Ive mentioned in my own log that I dont doubt I would have hit the numbers in lifts on my own, but I am pretty sure it sped things up. I have nothing negative to say about Z. Ive done only one cycle(hell I havent even finished) and I wasnt expecting to Hercules after this basic cycle. Ive read 100s of log, threads, etc... and everyone responds differently to different amounts.
I now know that 500mg per week is probably a tad on the low side for me. I wouldnt mind doing the same exact thing but higher, but we know next time will be with a kicker or three. I now know that I dont react much to mid level doses of T. I have a long time to workout new cycles and see what works great based on the vast knowledge of everyone here. I think the biggest mistakes are made by the people that want instant overnight results that are not willing to put in a few years of hard work.

and you shouldn't say anything bad b/c you have nothing to compare it to, but i'd just say don't limit yourself to one sponsor.

 

[ordawg1]

I say if you can afford it get a blood test done, see what your levels are! That would say alot

BINGO- and we have had MANY guys do just that. Their levels were perfect.BTW-is Zpharma-not Zline. We just had a contest with 5 guys using this gear-the results time and again on Zgear speak for themself-Thank You-ordawg1

 

[Repo]

This is very common guys - and is why I always look at two cycles out.

We all go through times where we feel like we aren't growing and times where we feel like KING KONG.

I alternat both Z line an Euro and have never felt like anything was under dosed at all - but I have had times that were I thought ..."eh, what am I doing wrong?"

I had a conversation with Z many months ago - and he told me he tells his makers to add a little extra to every batch - but not so much that it's over dosed ... "however, there is no way it's ever under dosed."

There are so many things that can change your growing conditions.

Too much of an AI will wipe out estrogen - and zero estrogen is not good at all ... not to mention my T3 experiment that hampered gains this last couple months.

Please read this thread - if you haven't already ... it was my gains after 10 months of Z's gear - including times that seem slow.

http://www.ironmagazineforums.com/unclez/143861-thank-you-z-what-difference-year-can-make.html

All of Z's gear is 100% spot-on solid.

 

[littlekev]

BINGO- and we have had MANY guys do just that. Their levels were perfect.BTW-is Zpharma-not Zline. We just had a contest with 5 guys using this gear-the results time and again on Zgear speak for themself-Thank You-ordawg1

I was having doubts on my first test cycle a several years ago, so i had blood drawn, was pinning 500mg a week and my levels came back at 4900. Upped my carbs and put on a little weight, mostly recomp and strength increase. Gear was def g2g

 

[PUMP_THAT]

This is very common guys - and is why I always look at two cycles out.

We all go through times where we feel like we aren't growing and times where we feel like KING KONG.

I alternat both Z line an Euro and have never felt like anything was under dosed at all - but I have had times that were I thought ..."eh, what am I doing wrong?"

I had a conversation with Z many months ago - and he told me he tells his makers to add a little extra to every batch - but not so much that it's over dosed ... "however, there is no way it's ever under dosed."

There are so many things that can change your growing conditions.

Too much of an AI will wipe out estrogen - and zero estrogen is not good at all ... not to mention my T3 experiment that hampered gains this last couple months.

Please read this thread - if you haven't already ... it was my gains after 10 months of Z's gear - including times that seem slow.

http://www.ironmagazineforums.com/unclez/143861-thank-you-z-what-difference-year-can-make.html

All of Z's gear is 100% spot-on solid.

Good post Repo, I see Z has made u very happy...lol

 

[sofargone561]

I was having doubts on my first test cycle a several years ago, so i had blood drawn, was pinning 500mg a week and my levels came back at 4900. Upped my carbs and put on a little weight, mostly recomp and strength increase. Gear was def g2g

i wasnt having doubt until 2 weeks ago. i stoped making gains coompletly and even fell fell back on the weight. i took 3 days off and went in today and set new PR's on 3 different workouts and banged out more pushups then i ever have. i guess i wanted to blame the gear but maybe i was over training.

 

[littlekev]

i wasnt having doubt until 2 weeks ago. i stoped making gains coompletly and even fell fell back on the weight. i took 3 days off and went in today and set new PR's on 3 different workouts and banged out more pushups then i ever have. i guess i wanted to blame the gear but maybe i was over training.

Could be a number of things, i have diff ups and downs too even on cycle. Congrats on the pr's man i just broke some of mine also, feels good!

 

[sofargone561]

Could be a number of things, i have diff ups and downs too even on cycle. Congrats on the pr's man i just broke some of mine also, feels good!

feels fucking great! idk what it is but im back now!

 

[suprfast]

feels fucking great! idk what it is but im back now!

We didn't even notice you were gone

 

[sofargone561]

We didn't even notice you were gone

hhaha i ment at the gym my lifts and motivation is back but thanks for the love and support lmao

 

[suprfast]

hhaha i ment at the gym my lifts and motivation is back but thanks for the love and support lmao

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