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First cycle, no Ai and puffy face.

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Hey guys, I've been browsing these forums for a very long time and don't think I've ever started a thread. I'm noticing little to no sides as far as gyno and stuff and o week 6 of my cycle of a 12 week run with test cypionate @ 500 a week although I started low Cuz I was scared of anxiety and body reaction so I did 300mg first week then 400mg till I bumped to 500 at week 4. I also have Anavar I'll dose at 30 first day then go up to 50 everyday starting Monday. I have gained over 10lbs and started noticing effects in size but nothing dramatic like I expected. I was already big to begin with at 203 lbs with around 12% bf. I have a puffy face and everyone seems to notice it haha. They say my cheeks are bigger. I was wondering should I jump on arimidex? I am doing low call 2200 a day for a cut/recomp. I use to weigh over 300 with 30% body fat or so and no definition. So I pushed all the way I could naturally! Been lifting for 6 years 4 being serious everyday all out with a day or 2 off. Any thoughts on the bloated face?
 
as your thread title suggests,
no ai = puffy face
 
You should be using an AI on cycle. not for just puffy face, not for gyno, but for HEALTH.
Its not healthy to just let your estrogen go sky high. start AI from start of cycle BEFORE sides come.

good luck



* yes start AI...
 
I have been reading threads on this forum for a while now. AI and the correct way to do a cycle is everywhere on this forum. I don't understand why people that are members here would choose to do a cycle in a way that can hurt them when there is thread after thread telling what the results of that will be if you do that.

We are very fortunate here to have very informative post and knowledgable members who can help noobies do there first cycle the RIGHT way. These guys have been there and gone through some of the issues. It is best to learn from them so you get the best results but most importantly you get them safely.

Just my opinion. I just wish people would take the advice given so frequently on this forum. It is an awesome place to learn and get advice
 
I have been reading threads on this forum for a while now. AI and the correct way to do a cycle is everywhere on this forum. I don't understand why people that are members here would choose to do a cycle in a way that can hurt them when there is thread after thread telling what the results of that will be if you do that.

We are very fortunate here to have very informative post and knowledgable members who can help noobies do there first cycle the RIGHT way. These guys have been there and gone through some of the issues. It is best to learn from them so you get the best results but most importantly you get them safely.

Just my opinion. I just wish people would take the advice given so frequently on this forum. It is an awesome place to learn and get advice
love this guy...serious
yeah if people are saying your looking bloated, its time for an AI. get your self some adex and pop .5mg ED for a few weeks. when you start drying out lower the dose a little.
 
Thanks Jimmy, just seems like a lot of first timers want to take short cuts and wonder why they hurt themselves, don't get great results, or experience bad sides. Some may do this because it is more expensive to run with and AI and proper PCT but if you can't afford to do it the right way, don't do it at all. The problems that will come are not worth it.
 
You should be using an AI on cycle. not for just puffy face, not for gyno, but for HEALTH.
Its not healthy to just let your estrogen go sky high. start AI from start of cycle BEFORE sides come.

good luck



* yes start AI...

I agree with all of this.
 
I have been reading threads on this forum for a while now. AI and the correct way to do a cycle is everywhere on this forum. I don't understand why people that are members here would choose to do a cycle in a way that can hurt them when there is thread after thread telling what the results of that will be if you do that.

We are very fortunate here to have very informative post and knowledgable members who can help noobies do there first cycle the RIGHT way. These guys have been there and gone through some of the issues. It is best to learn from them so you get the best results but most importantly you get them safely.

Just my opinion. I just wish people would take the advice given so frequently on this forum. It is an awesome place to learn and get advice

its because people only believe they want to hear and would rather trust there good buddy thats a drug dealer that just wants them to buy what ever and not people who have experience and knowledge.
 
I not like to use a AI if i not need it. Now i talk about gyno and water retention. When i BULK du i like to blow up. I not mind the bloat :-) But i do agree to what you guys are saying. And its all ways good to have some in hand just in case. If i get gyno i pop 0,5mg adex ed for 3-4 days and drop it down to 0,5mg e3d or 4. Adex is so strong and works so well for me.
 
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Well no, I didn't want to use an Ai because I was doing very little and I have done blood tests with my estrogen coming back at 80. With a test higher than 2k I don't find 80 to be that high and I believe it should be a bit elevated. I started using it regardless. I was going to do 0.5 eod. Sound about right for arimidex?

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Btw I have a PA doing all my shots and taking blood tests every couple of weeks. So I am not worried about costs or any of that bullshit.

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Well no, I didn't want to use an Ai because I was doing very little and I have done blood tests with my estrogen coming back at 80. With a test higher than 2k I don't find 80 to be that high and I believe it should be a bit elevated. I started using it regardless. I was going to do 0.5 eod. Sound about right for arimidex?

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.5 mg adex EOD should have a positive effect on moon face.
 
Thank you brother. I'll do .05 eod. Or would 0.25 be sufficient. Also do you guys take it in the mornings or dose at night, preference wise.

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ITs definitely time for some AI brother but as the title suggests you already know this. I would like to say congrats on your massive weight loss I think that is awesome for sure and you should be proud of yourself on that. What does your diet and nutrition look like? Lets see if we can get that in order so you can have a six pack this summer! Let me know bro I'll help you out as much as I can.
 
Thank you so much brother! Let's see if I can upload where I was and where I'm at now.
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High levels of e2 can lead to a ton of health issues that are NOT called gyno. Prostate cancer being one of the biggest.
 
On it! Do you guys dose it in the morning or at night? I also take 60mg of anavar split in two doses, morning and night.

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On it! Do you guys dose it in the morning or at night? I also take 60mg of anavar split in two doses, morning and night.

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Doesn't really matter when you take it, just be sure on the half life and the real thing if using research chemicals.

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