First injectable cycle, confused about cycle support.

[thesecretsausage]

Hi,its my first post and I see a lot you guys ask for stats so first of all...,.

Stats
Age 32
Weight 170lbs
Height 5 foot 8
BF 9 percent.
Years lifting 5


I'm lookimg at doing my first test cycle, just simple Test E 500mg per week split 250 Mon and Thurs with Clomid and Nolva 4 weeks PCT.

I see lots of advice to do this as your fisrt cycle due to using less compounds, but I also see a lot of people running arimedex and hgc through their cycle as well, is this something I should be doing? I have some letrozole on hand.

Ps I have ran 2 low dose 6 week cycles of dbol (omg!) with correct PCT and had good experiences, no gyno, a total of 12 lbs muscle retained.


Thanks I

 

[World-Pharma.org]

i am sure guys will help you here..welcome to forum!

 

[longworthb]

On a low dose test cycle u won't need hcg but it will help recovery and pct will be easier IMO. Adex or aromasin should be ran on cycle to prevent estro sides aka gyno and all the other nasty shit that goes with high estro. Run adex at .25ed or aromasin at 12.5 and that should be sufficient. Only use letro as a last resort like if u end up with hard tissue lumps bro. I know people that run low dose letro throughout the cycle but it does have estro rebound so if u do this make sure u taper off. Also with aromasin u can run it through pct to keep estro in check as it doesn't have estro rebound effects

 

[chocolatemalt]

I'm lookimg at doing my first test cycle, just simple Test E 500mg per week split 250 Mon and Thurs with Clomid and Nolva 4 weeks PCT.

I see lots of advice to do this as your fisrt cycle due to using less compounds, but I also see a lot of people running arimedex and hgc through their cycle as well, is this something I should be doing? I have some letrozole on hand.

Ps I have ran 2 low dose 6 week cycles of dbol (omg!) with correct PCT and had good experiences, no gyno, a total of 12 lbs muscle retained.

I'm in my 2nd cycle and 1st one is still fresh in memory (i.e. I'm a recovering noob). My thoughts:

1) Consider front-loading to knock a week off the test-e kick in delay. It might take 4-5 weeks for you to feel it, but with a 1000mg double-dose in your first week you should be able to get it down to 3-4 weeks. It doesn't matter how you get the 1000 mg in you... on your normal Mon/Thu schedule, or on extra days, or all on the same day. You won't feel the difference in any case.

2) Bump the 500 to 750 mg/wk halfway through your cycle to keep gains coming. 500 is quite conservative.

3) Add a dbol kicker for the first 4 weeks so you don't get discouraged by the long delay. You already know this med so the sides won't be a surprise. I did this two-med approach on my first cycle and was happy with it.

4) HCG and Aromasin are really nice. I wouldn't cycle without them but I'm picky about my balls staying in top form and I'm an aggressive aromatizer. Your results may vary and you might not mind skipping these. You can always add them mid-cycle if you get the respective symptoms.

5) Get frequent blood tests so you know where your E2 is, how effective your test-e is (please get "testosterone lc/ms-ms" assay and post results here!), and whether any of your meds are bunk. If your E2 soars due to crap Aromasin for instance you'll want to switch to a new source asap. Your letro has a high probability of being bunk btw, just fair warning. Where did you get it?

 

[thesecretsausage]

On a low dose test cycle u won't need hcg but it will help recovery and pct will be easier IMO. Adex or aromasin should be ran on cycle to prevent estro sides aka gyno and all the other nasty shit that goes with high estro. Run adex at .25ed or aromasin at 12.5 and that should be sufficient. Only use letro as a last resort like if u end up with hard tissue lumps bro. I know people that run low dose letro throughout the cycle but it does have estro rebound so if u do this make sure u taper off. Also with aromasin u can run it through pct to keep estro in check as it doesn't have estro rebound effects

Thanks for the advice.

I'm in my 2nd cycle and 1st one is still fresh in memory (i.e. I'm a recovering noob). My thoughts:

1) Consider front-loading to knock a week off the test-e kick in delay. It might take 4-5 weeks for you to feel it, but with a 1000mg double-dose in your first week you should be able to get it down to 3-4 weeks. It doesn't matter how you get the 1000 mg in you... on your normal Mon/Thu schedule, or on extra days, or all on the same day. You won't feel the difference in any case.

2) Bump the 500 to 750 mg/wk halfway through your cycle to keep gains coming. 500 is quite conservative.

3) Add a dbol kicker for the first 4 weeks so you don't get discouraged by the long delay. You already know this med so the sides won't be a surprise. I did this two-med approach on my first cycle and was happy with it.

4) HCG and Aromasin are really nice. I wouldn't cycle without them but I'm picky about my balls staying in top form and I'm an aggressive aromatizer. Your results may vary and you might not mind skipping these. You can always add them mid-cycle if you get the respective symptoms.

5) Get frequent blood tests so you know where your E2 is, how effective your test-e is (please get "testosterone lc/ms-ms" assay and post results here!), and whether any of your meds are bunk. If your E2 soars due to crap Aromasin for instance you'll want to switch to a new source asap. Your letro has a high probability of being bunk btw, just fair warning. Where did you get it?

Brilliant, thanks for the tips.

The Letro = can i name suppliers? I got it from another board sponsor so I guess the sponsors are already out there.