Flex Wheeler and drug use

[Arnold]

Check out the latest issue of MD, Flex talks about some of his past drug use/abuse.

Remember how huge Flex's delts were? Well, there is a reason for that! He explains exactly how he did it in his column.

Basically on contest day at about 5am he started injecting them going thru a total of about 21 bottles of a drug similar to Synthol, and this was/is a regular practice at the pro level.

you'll have to read it, very interesting...

 

[Arnold]

btw, I am in no way discounting Flex, his physique or pro bb's, I just found it very interesting, and worth reading.

 

[Mudge]

btw, I am in no way discounting Flex, his physique or pro bb's, I just found it very interesting, and worth reading.

Most of us who have been around know your take on those things, its neat to see him give some info, very interesting. Tom Prince said when he retires he will toss out some examples of what the pros do.

 

[Johnnny]

Robert DiMaggio

Remember how huge Flex's delts were? Well, there is a reason for that! He explains exactly how he did it in his column.

Basically on contest day at about 5am he started injecting them going thru a total of about 21 bottles of a drug similar to Synthol, and this was/is a regular practice at the pro level.

Sounds like that weird guy Greg Valintino with those ugly huge arms compared to the rest of his body. Why would anyone want to look like that?

From what I know about synthol is it's sold as a topical posing oil. It's injected into different mucsle areas & the synthol causes the fascia around the muscle to grow or expand allowing more room for the actual muscle to grow.

To keep the gains, they have to continously inject enough synthol into the desired spot.

 

[ZECH]

Synthol doen't make anything grow. That is why you have to keep injecting it.

 

[Johnnny]

dg806

Synthol doen't make anything grow. That is why you have to keep injecting it.

Well from what I've read in books & magazines about synthol, with constant injections it makes the fascia around the muscle expand allowing more room for the muscle to grow with training, steroids & GH/insulint stack of course.

I have an interview in a magazine with the creator of synthol who's used it on himself.

 

[Mudge]

While we may believe in fascia stretching helping to promote new gains, there is really no proof that it does that.

The "gains" go away relatively fast.

 

[Arnold]

Right, Flex said he only did this on competition day, as you know huge delts are not only impressive but create quite an illusion on stage of being larger and having a better v taper, etc. He also said he did it to keep up with Kevin Levrone who had awesome delts.

 

[Johnnny]

Mudge

While we may believe in fascia stretching helping to promote new gains, there is really no proof that it does that.

The "gains" go away relatively fast.

I have an interview with the creator of synthol who's used it on himself from an old magazine. When I find it, I'll scan the couple of pages & post them.

But have you ever seen Greg Valentino? He has ugly huge arms that are too big for his body & he is a synthol freak.

Robert DiMaggio

Right, Flex said he only did this on competition day, as you know huge delts are not only impressive but create quite an illusion on stage of being larger and having a better v taper, etc. He also said he did it to keep up with Kevin Levrone who had awesome delts.

I bet Kevin Levrone was using synthol to on competition day.

 

[nikegurl]

I bet Kevin Levrone was using synthol to on competition day.

Well...I can't say for SURE that he wasn't or didn't BUT I can say that his delts in person even off season really are freaky. (I mean all of the pros are "freaky" but I particularly remember being blown away by his shoulders)

 

[Johnnny]

Here is a pic of that synthol freak Greg Valentino I found in one of my magazines.

Look how ugly his arms are even though they're huge.

When I find the interview of the creator of Synthol I'll post it.

 

[Arnold]

I bet Kevin Levrone was using synthol to on competition day.

by the way Flex wrote in this article it sounds like it's a common practice amoung the pros for any "lagging" body part.

 

[ClintZ28]

It's just sad. I also read Paul Dillet's section where he talked about his second near death experience when using insulin for the first time. I just can't believe that so many top level bodybuilders don't even know what they are putting into their bodies. I would think that they would have done their homework over the years and would basically be qualified dieticians, and have a good understanding of all interactions these drugs have in their bodies.
After learning about these practices, I don't think I would ever take advice from many of these pro bodybuilders. I've overlooked a lot of dumb things they have said in their columns in MD. Now I know, that many of them are genetic wonders, and don't know shit.

 

[Arnold]

Now I know, that many of them are genetic wonders, and don't know shit.

yes they are, but I would not go as far to say they do not know shit.

 

[ClintZ28]

Robert, well, I just mean, that maybe many of them don't. I've heard some sketchy advice given by a lot of them. They at least think they know everything.

 

[nikegurl]

maybe we can say they know everything about getting their bodies (not necessarily someone else's) in the shape they want them to be (regardless of consequence) on contest day.

 

[Mudge]

I just can't believe that so many top level bodybuilders don't even know what they are putting into their bodies. I would think that they would have done their homework over the years and would basically be qualified dieticians, and have a good understanding of all interactions these drugs have in their bodies.

Something leads ME to believe you have very little idea of what you are talking about. There is no gaurantee on how blood sugar will be affected by a given dose of insulin, at times the body will shift VERY rapidly. My own diabetic friend can attest to this, her blood sugar went from 237 to 80 in a matter of MINUTES without insulin or any other glucose disposal agent.

So before we rag on Paul for being a dumbass, maybe you should read up a bit first. Even making the correct calculations, it is still possible to kill yourself using insulin. If you want to be serious about insulin use then a glucometer would be a must have investment.

He also fell over on stage once from diuretic use coupled with water starvation.

 

[Mudge]

Well...I can't say for SURE that he wasn't or didn't BUT I can say that his delts in person even off season really are freaky. (I mean all of the pros are "freaky" but I particularly remember being blown away by his shoulders)

His whole body in peak shape to me speaks of freak, and asthetically freaky at that. Visually one of my all time favorites.

He can press 405 behind the neck for at least 5 reps, synthol or not its certainly not all oil in those arms.

 

[nikegurl]

He can press 405 behind the neck for at least 5 reps, synthol or not its certainly not all oil in those arms.

 

[ClintZ28]

Paul, I believe was not smart in trying this for the first time on competition day. A practical idea would be to try it in very small doses during the offseason to see how you body reacts. He tries it for the FIRST time and shoots enough to kill himself. That's kinda dumb, don't you think?

He didn't even know how many carbs he had taken in. He just gave himself 10 units, and figured, yeah, he had eaten enough, even though he had never used insulin before. That's pretty dumb! hehe

 

[Johnnny]

Robert DiMaggio

by the way Flex wrote in this article it sounds like it's a common practice amoung the pros for any "lagging" body part.

I know they almost all use Synthol on an uneven body part. But Greg Valentino isn't even in the pro rankings.

Do any of you have any comments on this synthol freak Greg Valentino with the picture I supplied? I have somewhere more pics of his screwed up looking synthol injected arms.

 

[Arnold]

Do any of you have any comments on this synthol freak Greg Valentino with the picture I supplied?

we have talked about him in other threads...I think he has serious mental issues.

 

[Johnnny]

Robert DiMaggio

we have talked about him in other threads...I think he has serious mental issues.

I wasn't sure if anyone knew him hear as I hadn't seen him mentioned recently.

But I was expecting you to say something like that about him. I think the dude is one beer short of a six pack if you know what I mean lol.

I just can't understand why anyone would want to look like that?

 

[Mudge]

He tries it for the FIRST time and shoots enough to kill himself.

It doesn't take much to kill you, and yes it was dumb not knowing what his blood sugar was before and after doing so.

Valentino is about 3 beers short of a 6 pack. He is 5'4" so obviously he seems to have a problem with that, the rest of his body is not that spectacular, forearms, chest, back, all pale in comparison to his "genetically gifted arms."

 

[ClintZ28]

I have a friend that personally knows him. He said that Gregg will not admit to using synthol. My friend is also a doctor and tried to explain to him the damage that will occur as it enters his blood. Gregg stated that he just wants to enjoy the attention and get everything he can out of it while it lasts. It's sad.

 

[Johnnny]

Mudge

It doesn't take much to kill you, and yes it was dumb not knowing what his blood sugar was before and after doing so.

Valentino is about 3 beers short of a 6 pack. He is 5'4" so obviously he seems to have a problem with that, the rest of his body is not that spectacular, forearms, chest, back, all pale in comparison to his "genetically gifted arms."

As far as I've heard about Greg Valentino, he constantly injects a sh!t load of synthol to his biceps & triceps on each arm every week or something.

I just don't think Greg Valentino is that smart & I'm not the only one who thinks so here.

But why would anyone do that to himself? I just don't get it?

Lee Priest is around 5ft5 & is 240lbs ripped which is like a 5ft11 280lb ripped person. But Lee doesn't look all screwed up like Greg does?

I just don't get why he wants to look like that?

 

[Arnold]

I just don't get why he wants to look like that?

well, neither do I, but I guess only Greg would be able to answer this question.

 

[Mudge]

Lee Priest is around 5ft5 & is 240lbs ripped which is like a 5ft11 280lb ripped person. But Lee doesn't look all screwed up like Greg does?

5'4" and a half, and yes Lee is huge for his height. There is no way to compare Lee Priest and Greg Valentino, they dont belong in the same sentence.

 

[Johnnny]

Robert DiMaggio

well, neither do I, but I guess only Greg would be able to answer this question.

That's true, but wouldn't one in general want to look like Frank Sepe or Lee Labrada in his prime instead?


Mudge

5'4" and a half, and yes Lee is huge for his height. There is no way to compare Lee Priest and Greg Valentino, they dont belong in the same sentence.

That is exactly why I compared them together. They are roughly the same height & weight, but Lee Priest looks way better at his short height than Greg does.

ClintZ28

I have a friend that personally knows him. He said that Gregg will not admit to using synthol. My friend is also a doctor and tried to explain to him the damage that will occur as it enters his blood. Gregg stated that he just wants to enjoy the attention and get everything he can out of it while it lasts. It's sad.

Of course Greg won't admit to it just like many bodybuilders don't admit to steroid or GH use.

Have you met Greg through your friend before? He must look real weird in person even more than the magazines.

So he doesn't care about his health eh? That is sad, that's the way most IFBB pro's think.



I have posted 3 pics of the 3 page interview with the inventor of Chris Clark who's used steroids & synthol & has weighed as much as 270lbs ripped & he isn't very tall.

I know it's hard to read, but the picture manager wouldn't allow me to post pics much larger than this.

What do you think? You can also find Chris Clark on the web to.

 

[TrojanMan60563]

I read something one time about how greg used to inject like 5 grams of test a week into each arm. He claims its not synthol that made him so big its all the HUGE volume injections into his arms and delts. He said that he would use prop