Originally posted by oaktownboy
arnold has admitted to taking steroids, just not the insane amounts that he actually did when he was in his prime...either way i love arnold and i don't care if he did steroids or not
EXACTLY, me too

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Originally posted by oaktownboy
arnold has admitted to taking steroids, just not the insane amounts that he actually did when he was in his prime...either way i love arnold and i don't care if he did steroids or not
natural monsters?Mags said:We all know that Arnie was loaded full of gear when in his prime. Apart from Louie, he was simply huge, so much more than his fellow bodybuilders at the time for that era. I always assumed he started off young as when you see him at 15 he's a typical skinny kid, yet at 16-17 he's made tremendous gains that even his natural super-charged adolescent hormones couldnt conjure up. Then we see him at 19 and 20 and he was huge then (think he had 19 inch arms at 19) which in that era was freaky big for such a young age. Think of how many kids you know who, although may be big dudes for their ages have 19-20inch guns at 19. As for Flex, he too must of done crazy amounts of gear to create the previously mentioned comic hero physique (his calves and outer sweep were truly unreal). Good point raised earlier about how many bb's would actually be good enough genetically to grow/build their bodies naturally and not through chemistry. Imagine a world where the sport was really defined by natural giants, instead of everyone being able to grow into monsters. It's probably be boring due to lack of variety and simply the physiques not looking as good, but dam people would be still be in awe at natural monsters, nature and dedication of the athlete being the determining factors as to who would be the biggest bb in the world. I wonder if Ronnie, Jay or Ruhl would naturally be strong and big if had never used gear etc, would they still be the cream of the bodybuilding world?
It was a thought, not my opinion. Tell me honestly, if you see some dude who's above 6.6 and huge naturally you'd not give him respect and acknowledge his efforts. Fair play, dudes on gear do look good, but just saying it'd be strange to see how people would actually grow/build/lift without drugs, with only those with genetic potential becoming the worlds huge elite. We all admire dudes who grow pass what we could ever hope to achieve or dudes who just look so much better than us, so naturally big dudes would still earn respect and be good athletes. I mean how many guys do we look up to who are smaller and weaker than ourselves? Personally, drugs is a good thing as far as it lets everyone have a good crack at getting huge, not cutting out the naturally small guys from a sport they adore. It gives us at least the choice anyway. I wasn't saying Natural is my prefered way to go, hell I'll be cycling as soon as I feel my genetic limitation has been reached but my main point was it'd be interesting to see if some of the most famous BB in the world would still have been bigger/stronger than the average lifter if they hadnt ever juiced (or there was no such thing as juice) and whether they'd be as good as a natural strong beast. How many people cane Jay and alike for shit form or not using all that much weight, believing its the GH and gear doing all the hard work. Just a point. No beef though G.young d said:natural monsters?![]()
If you really look at all the pics of young Arnold he explodes in size around 18-19.....before that I see no evidence of steroid use.....Mags said:We all know that Arnie was loaded full of gear when in his prime. Apart from Louie, he was simply huge, so much more than his fellow bodybuilders at the time for that era. I always assumed he started off young as when you see him at 15 he's a typical skinny kid, yet at 16-17 he's made tremendous gains that even his natural super-charged adolescent hormones couldnt conjure up. Then we see him at 19 and 20 and he was huge then (think he had 19 inch arms at 19) which in that era was freaky big for such a young age. Think of how many kids you know who, although may be big dudes for their ages have 19-20inch guns at 19. As for Flex, he too must of done crazy amounts of gear to create the previously mentioned comic hero physique (his calves and outer sweep were truly unreal). Good point raised earlier about how many bb's would actually be good enough genetically to grow/build their bodies naturally and not through chemistry. Imagine a world where the sport was really defined by natural giants, instead of everyone being able to grow into monsters. It's probably be boring due to lack of variety and simply the physiques not looking as good, but dam people would be still be in awe at natural monsters, nature and dedication of the athlete being the determining factors as to who would be the biggest bb in the world. I wonder if Ronnie, Jay or Ruhl would naturally be strong and big if had never used gear etc, would they still be the cream of the bodybuilding world?