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Twin Peak said:
I agree, proprietary blends can be a way to fool the consumer. So one should stay clear of proprietary blends unless there is trust in the manufacturer.

Not sure I agree 100% with that. :shrug:

I chose to list my ingrediants as a proprietary blend, however with my "new & improved formula" that will be coming out (not for another month or two) along with a new product label, I plan to list exact mg's of each ingrediant. (not that I was skimping on any ingrediants, cause I did not)

My reasons are the next version will be my final formula, and I am tired of people sending me emails asking mg's of ingrediants. :)
 
Scivation said:
What ads in the mail? We have not done any direct marketing mailings...yet.
Every package from bulknutrition.com for months on end. I was not accusing you are your company of any wrong-doing or lousy product making. One look at the "fact" sheet shows that you make extremely bold claims and reveal little real facts. I understand that you must protect your product, and I agree that one must trust a manufacturer to produce a quality product. The fact that you are urging people to try a free sample before buying is reassuring. How many servings are in a sample?
 
MikeLawry said:
I think he told me there is 1 serving per sample before.

which is pretty typical, I do not think I have ever received a single sample that was more than 1 serving.
 
but really, what can one serving do to help determine whether or not the product is right for me? Some products take days or even weeks to get in so one serving is really like a taste test or something. So I guess I'll wait until more people's tried it and then try to determine the products pro's and con's.
 
Robert DiMaggio said:
Not sure I agree 100% with that. :shrug:

I chose to list my ingrediants as a proprietary blend, however with my "new & improved formula" that will be coming out (not for another month or two) along with a new product label, I plan to list exact mg's of each ingrediant. (not that I was skimping on any ingrediants, cause I did not)

My reasons are the next version will be my final formula, and I am tired of people sending me emails asking mg's of ingrediants. :)

Your changing the ingredients in Anabolic Matrix Rx? Is this why you want me to buy a case :finger: ;)
 
MikeLawry said:
but really, what can one serving do to help determine whether or not the product is right for me? Some products take days or even weeks to get in so one serving is really like a taste test or something. So I guess I'll wait until more people's tried it and then try to determine the products pro's and con's.
If you feel increased energy and mental focus, you may want to buy more! I stand behind Neurostim and feel that people will like it if they try it.
 
Robert DiMaggio said:
which is pretty typical, I do not think I have ever received a single sample that was more than 1 serving.

Vitalstate sent me a whole box full of creatine and protein bar samples. I agree its not typical, but it really does help a person determine if the product works for them.
 
Scivation said:
Not in the mail, included with order. :)
The order came in the mail, Mr. Fucking Marketing Guy. Just got one about 30 minutes ago. Get that guy's cock out of your ear and address the concerns of your potential customers instead of wordplay. I don't like you either. :mad: You obviously just made that comment to bump this thread. Any press is good press, right?
 
how much is this stuff? I went to all the websites under "retailers" and they're all out of stock already and they price they all offer is "$0.00" ????
 
PreMier said:
Your changing the ingredients in Anabolic Matrix Rx? Is this why you want me to buy a case :finger: ;)

No, I am not changing the ingrediants, I am just tweaking the formula a bit. :)
 
Robert DiMaggio said:
No, I am not changing the ingrediants, I am just tweaking the formula a bit. :)

So how obsolete will the old formula become? I mean is the new formula that much better?

I guess it doesnt matter too much, since I feel the old formula worked fine..
 
PirateFromHell said:
The order came in the mail, Mr. Fucking Marketing Guy. Just got one about 30 minutes ago. Get that guy's cock out of your ear and address the concerns of your potential customers instead of wordplay. I don't like you either. :mad: You obviously just made that comment to bump this thread. Any press is good press, right?

This is getting good! :hehe:
 
It wouldn't help for him to say that the current "formula" is obsolete to any degree. But, it is good to announce that improvements are on the way. So, my understanding is that the ingredients remain the same; the amounts of the ingredients change.
 
So this anabolic matrix rx is like a natural Meth 1 test without the side effects?
 
MikeLawry said:
So this anabolic matrix rx is like a natural Meth 1 test without the side effects?
:cry: :haha: :sob: :haha:
 
MikeLawry said:
So this anabolic matrix rx is like a natural Meth 1 test without the side effects?

Its a high quality tribulis product. Jesus..
 
How topical. Here I am opening my latest box of goodies from Bulknutrition and guess what I find, a Neurostim brochure!

The only Neuro stimulator I trust is a good book. :D
 
MikeLawry said:
So this anabolic matrix rx is like a natural Meth 1 test without the side effects?
Mike, just a friendly word of advice: invest some time in research before you pose dumb questions. If you research and come back here with a few gaps in your knowledge people will be happy to help, but people won't spoon feed you. Brew up some coffee and spend some hours browsing this board and others, it will be time well spent.
 
i think listing a combination of otherwise generic components as a "proprietary blend" adds to products fishiness and works against both the buyer and the manufacturer. The reason I want to know the exact mg's is because I essentially already take things like ALCAR and DMAE. The only reason why I would look into a product like Neurostim is purely because of economics. If the product contains the ingredients I want per serving and is cheaper then buying all ingredients separately, then I'll definately get it. For example, I started buying XtremeFormulation's ICE after I did some simple math in my head after reading what was inside that supp and it turned out cheaper/more convinient then buying BCAA's separately. But that's just my way of thinking... :rolleyes:
 
In any case, you'll have to cough up more factual data about your product, pal. :mad: There, I said it...
 
iMan323 said:
i think listing a combination of otherwise generic components as a "proprietary blend" adds to products fishiness and works against both the buyer and the manufacturer. :rolleyes:
It should work against the manufacturer more than it does. I always find a "proprietary blend" to be evasive. Not good for this consumer. The masses don't care, though, so they get away with it.
 
PirateFromHell said:
The order came in the mail, Mr. Fucking Marketing Guy. Just got one about 30 minutes ago. Get that guy's cock out of your ear and address the concerns of your potential customers instead of wordplay. I don't like you either. :mad: You obviously just made that comment to bump this thread. Any press is good press, right?
I'm sorry that I upset you. About the any press is good press, that is not true nor do I believe that philosophy. I made the comment in jest and not to bump the thread.

What concerns have I not addressed and what have I said to make you use that angry little red guy unhappy face? Bulk Nutrition put my brochure in orders, just as they do with SAN brchures and have done with other companies. We did that to help drive up consumer awareness through a retailer.


Marc
 
iMan323 said:
In any case, you'll have to cough up more factual data about your product, pal. :mad: There, I said it...
The amounts are proprietary for a reason, just like Avant Labs' and BSN's products.

If you'd like to try a sample, please do. If not, that's understood.
 
will i recieve a free sample in the uk?

im reserving judgement until iv tried it
 
MikeLawry said:
So this anabolic matrix rx is like a natural Meth 1 test without the side effects?
oh dear :tard:
 
This is fucking retarded. Proprietary blends allow someone to use their own ingenuity combined with old materials to come up with a "new" product. Asking for the exact amounts of each ingredient is like asking that "someone" to give you all their work for free. I mean, would you ask for the ratios in the Leptigen series? After all, Par Deus & gang only revolutionized supplement science with the articles on Leptin. Who the fuck are they to keep their blend hidden? Whats a few thousand hours of research between friends?

"Well you might be on to something with this combination... but tell me what the exact ratio's are so i can try it and decide if its cheaper for me to just make on my own before paying for yours, ok?"

I cant fuckin roll 'em hard enough. :rolleyes:
 
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