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G/F is making dramatic lifestyle change, would love some diet advice :)

MatthewO

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My g/f and I have recently started to workout and diet. Problem is, she is completely transfixed by the "fat is bad" mantra perpetuated by magazines and t.v.. However, she is willing to listen to me, if only i could provide her a decent diet to adhere to. Some pertinent information:

She is 5'6, 200 lbs, large bone structure, 44" waist (from pants). Her bodyfat percentage (very rough estimate based on waistline/height) is in the low to mid 30's. By large bone structure, i really mean it, she has large hands, feet, very thick calves naturally, etc..

Eitherway, weight has been an issue all her life. She is affixiated by fat content in foods and is (by her own admission) addicted to carbs.

When we first started dating last summer she was at 220 lbs, she dieted and has made her way down to 200 but has been stuck there for 8 months. She is very typical in her love for cardio and situps but being very scared of bulking up using weights.

So the scenario at this moment:

1. Calorie intake is sporadic...by an estimate 1000 calories 2-3 days in a row followed by 2000-2500 for a day.

2. She is now receptive to weight training, we have went 4 times to the same gym (this helps a lot) and i have introduced her to many exercises (from bis, tris, shoulders, back to quads and hams)

3. Diet:

I am willing to make any diet changes necessary...I just really need help designing something that fits our budget (tight both of us are university students) and incorporates foods she enjoys as much as possible.

Her diet currently:

Mornings: Bowl of Cheerios.
Noon: Salad (fat free dressing)/stoned wheat thins OR 6 inch subway veggie sub (9 times out of 10) OR chicken breast (sliced from deli) sandwich with fat free mayo
Supper: Chicken/rice or pasta/chicken or a can of chicken noodle soup.

Snacks: popcorn (4 times a week) gummi bears, ( apples, oranges, pears, carrots, watermelon, fat free yogourt, one or two from this list every day) (spuds, crispy minis, rice krispy squares, pretzels, 1 from this list 4 times a week)

Other information is she really likes fat free mayo, fat free sour cream, if a condiment has a fat free version she is likely to have it and use it occasionally.

The diet the way it should be: Well, obviously things need to change from what ive read on here the last few days. Foods available to build a diet from that fit our budget that she enjoys: (limitations costwise put in brackets to limit its incorporation)

chicken (1 meal a day, 4 times a week)
tuna
turkey (once a week, expensive)
skim milk
pears, apples, lettuce, onions
whole wheat spaghetti /w tomato sauce
dressing (recommendations?)
condiments (recommendations?)
stoned wheat thins, popcorn (she loves these, any room for these occasionally?)
breakfast cereal (recommendations?)
water
diet pepsi
other lean meats in general (that arent too expensive)
cheese (mozza, mild, marble being favorite)
any other type of vegetable, minus exotics (staple types)


This is just a list of things particularly liked...any incorporation of these things makes things quite a bit easier from an enjoyment perspective. There is no real requirement for any of them though (Minus water heh)

A couple things that are not practical though are:

peanut butter (allegeric), supplements (too expensive for our budget atm, would prefer to avoid) and flax seed oil (i introduced it to her, she simply refuses to use this type of oil).

So if anyone can give me any advice on how to structure a meal plan within this framework (ill answer any questions offered concerning anything here i might have left out) it would be great.

Notes:

As for her goals, she wants to trim down her waist and tone her legs, arms and back. She also wants to weigh less; her overall goal is 150 lbs. The number on the scale bothers her, but she is willing to work longterm on fitness and muscle tone also; however, a meal plan that would help her down to 190 by July 1st would be greatly appreciated. I know she needs to eat more fat (EFA's that is) , less sugar, more protein, more meals and fewer snacks in more balanced proportion.

The reason why im trying to figure out a diet beforehand (instead of just posting what she eats daily and having it adjusted) is that if i offer her a plan that is only moderately good and she implements it and you offer changes...she is going to get mad. Id rather offer her one relatively solid plan from the start to get her motivated and confident from the get-go...I think it would increase her chances for success. If i was to constantly introduce one new food or one change daily to her diet she will get frustrated, its the nature of the beast, and i want to help make this lifestyle change (a big one) as easy as possible on her.

Again, thx for any help or meal plan information you can provide within this context.

Edit: Also, the reason why IM listing this is because she really doesnt like computers.
 
I know that there are some anti-BFL people on this board but...
I really think you need her to read the Body for Life book or Body Rx (I think there are a few others). But, she really needs to read and learn the basics. Unless she is motivated and she is doing it for herself and understanding what she is doing no matter what you say or do it don't mean JACK SHIT. Have her look at some of of the sites that show the women's transformations (these are all with weights), she really needs to understand that bulking is very hard for a woman to accomplish.

I could really start poking at the obvious things on this but I'll leave that for the others...
 
Well, what im really looking for is a meal formulation...based on people with more experience with diets than I.

As for motivation, she is motivated, it just needs to be channeled properly. What she wants is to know

1. what to do in terms of exercise
2. what to do in terms of diet

I already have an exercise program made up...now i want to present a diet that in two weeks wont require many changes because i made mistakes. That is why im looking for advice from people with far more experience in this area. And as for "understanding what she is doing" i am really a proponent of results making more sense than explanations. Meaning, I feel she will be FAR more receptive to the explanations of such non-intuitive things like "you need to eat certain fats to lose fat" once she has seen strong results. Make sense?

Matthew :)
 
Hi,
I just wanted to chime in, and say that your gf is to be commended for deciding to make a lifestyle change. My wife is also a "big girl," and she too decided to "do something about it." She has been working out at the gym 4 to 5 days a week, consistently for about 4 months now, doing some cardio and weights. The biggest frustration that I see with her, is an impatience for the weight to come off. I have explained, any number of times that she didn't get that heavy overnight. I also explain to her that muscle weighs significantly more than fat, so she may not see a huge change in her weight for a while. This unfortunately HAS been the case. However, I insisted on taking all of her measurements (some were more fun than others... LOL), and we compare them month to month. What she has seen is that her waist and hips are going down significantly... the weight is going down slowly. Her workouts are very intense, and she does a great job focusing on her form.

I unfortunately am not a dietician, so I can't help you in that regard. I can, however, tell you that you need to make sure that you are very supportive of your gf, make sure that she understands that this isn't a quick fix... that it is a lifestyle change that will result in her losing the weight, while gaining muscle mass (which I happen to think is SUPER sexy). I would strongly suggest taking "before pictures" so that she can see where she started, and also make sure that you take her measurements so that she can see the progress. The scale will likely not change as rapidly as the inches.

-Dan
 
Yo, you see how old this thread is? Just wondering, because I bet his GF doesnt workout anymore, and I bet this guy doesnt even visit the site.
 
Id put 100$ on it they both weigh about 30 lbs more.
 
LOL. Don't I feel sheepish! Didn't look at the date. Sorry guys!
 
:rofl: yeah man rofl
 
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