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going to try anadrol
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I know people who use Abombs and like them. I personally love dbol. Get the close if not identical results at the same dosage. Plus 50mgs of dbol is a good dose, 50mgs of abombs is a starting dose. So if you can do more with less mg that is the route I would run.
I should add that you make sure you drink enough fluid, 1.5-2 gallons a day, and also keep some baby aspirin in hand in case your bp starts to rise. mine rose like hell the first time I tried it. just taking in more fluids helped. baby aspirin helps thin the blood as to help combat high bp.
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Good post- and aspirin does help woith bloat and BP. Simple but effective-OD
I HATE water- but is very important to drink a bunch. I just had a problem after being in the heat for 10 days and not drinking water. OSL and my bride got all over me about it as I bloated bad . ya think at my age I would know better.
Baby asprin? Great info. I will remember that for a future ref!
ill be trying it for the first time too. running it the first 5 weeks of my cycle. first 3 weeks will be 50mg with 20mg dbol, then the last 2 weeks strictly 100mg of anadrol. should be a gooden
Big gains but...............you might lose a liver.
Why run both compounds?
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Var and bad sides
? IMO is one of the most mellow compounds out there. I run it @ 50 mg daily for over 90 days and nothing but leanhard gains. I haven't haerd of many sides from var- interesting.A-Bombs use to be the compound of choice if you wanted to get huge fast. I am talking over 20 years ago. It was either A-Bombs at 50 mg per day - or Dbol sust stack. We would run up to 100 mgs of Dbol daily and 500 mgs of sust weekly- NO PCT. Just reduce DBol at the end of cycle. Lots of guys grew very big off of this. Things have changed fer sure
Var and bad sides
A-Bombs use to be the compound of choice if you wanted to get huge fast. I am talking over 20 years ago. It was either A-Bombs at 50 mg per day - or Dbol sust stack. We would run up to 100 mgs of Dbol daily and 500 mgs of sust weekly- NO PCT. Just reduce DBol at the end of cycle. Lots of guys grew very big off of this. Things have changed fer sure
^^^^ Sounds like a wild ass ride OD!
why not? ive read the synergy between them is amazing, and it'll make up for the lack of time im not able to run anadrol at 100mg.
i have a liver of steel. ive ran superdrol twice this year, once with dbol and oral tren in the same cycle. i keep poppin, shit keeps rockin
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why not? ive read the synergy between them is amazing, and it'll make up for the lack of time im not able to run anadrol at 100mg.
i have a liver of steel. ive ran superdrol twice this year, once with dbol and oral tren in the same cycle. i keep poppin, shit keeps rockin
Keep us posted wrekem and keep your eye on the liver and blood counts just in case.Back in the old days we used to run Dbol at 100 mgs per day plus- no PCT. IF we had the $$$ - we would be running sust as high as 4 times per week and A-Bombs if we could afford. PCT was just not around. Is anybody else here that old to remember ? Shit- I am getting too fucking old- but we did crazy shit back then-Thanks-OD
Anadrol is a great oral steroid. Its strong, effective and safe if duration/dosage is kept reasonable. For a first time user I would administer 50mg Anadrol daily for 8 weeks. I prefer Anadrol with a simple stack of Testosterone. My preference is 750mg Testosterone weekly.kind of scared to use this stuff.What can I expect,and how bad are the sides?I know if it's from z it's legit.
As stated already, please keep Nolvadex on hand in case gynocomastia presents. Since Anadrol does not aromatize only Nolvadex can protect you from Anadrol induced gyno. Stay well hydrated and use support sups for your liver, lipids and blood pressure. I use Advanced Cycle Support every day.
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most pple I know say just run a higher dose of dbol b/c you feel like a train wreck on drol. I haven't run it personally, and don't really have an interest after using compounds like superdrol and M1t
Superdrol is very effective but harder on the liver than Anadrol. In studies subjects ran Anadrol for months with very little issues at 50mg daily.
this is a great study. phase III randomized double blind placebo control. It shows anadrol works great for adding mass in hiv patients, but 100 mg is just as good as 150 mg ed. Plus, they do liver panels out to 16 weeks. 150 mg is worse on the liver than 100. About 25-28% of people show 5x normal liver enzyme values at 16 weeks. Liver issues start creeping in at 12 weeks.
Again, this is another clear indication that more is not better~Dr Pangloss
AIDS. 2003 Mar 28;17(5):699-710. Links
Double-blind, randomized, placebo-controlled phase III trial of oxymetholone for the treatment of HIV wasting.
Hengge UR, Stocks K, Wiehler H, Faulkner S, Esser S, Lorenz C, Jentzen W, Hengge D, Goos M, Dudley RE, Ringham G.
STD-Unit, Department of Dermatology and Venerology, University of Essen, Germany. ulrich.hengge@uni-duesseldorf.de
BACKGROUND: Despite highly active antiretroviral therapy (HAART), chronic involuntary weight loss still remains a serious problem in the care of HIV patients. Various alterations in energy metabolism and endocrine regulation have been found to cause loss of lean body mass (LBM) and body cell mass (BCM). Previous studies in HIV-positive men undergoing androgen replacement therapy or treatment with recombinant growth hormone (rGH) have shown partial restoration of LBM, but these treatments have largely been ineffective in eugonadal individuals.
STUDY DESIGN: Double-blind, randomized, placebo-controlled trial of 89 HIV-positive women and men with wasting assigned to the anabolic steroid oxymetholone [50 mg twice (BID) or three times daily (TID)] or placebo for 16 weeks followed by open-label treatment.
STUDY ENDPOINTS: Body weight, bioimpedance measurements, quality of life parameters and appetite. RESULTS: Oxymetholone led to a significant weight gain of 3.0 +/- 0.5 and 3.5 +/- 0.7 kg in the TID and BID groups, respectively (P < 0.05 for each treatment versus placebo), whereas individuals in the placebo group gained an average of 1.0 +/- 0.7 kg. Body cell mass increased in the oxymetholone BID group (3.8 +/- 0.4 kg; P < 0.0001) and in the oxymetholone TID group (2.1 +/- 0.6 kg; P < 0.005), corresponding to 12.4 and 7.4% of baseline BCM, respectively. Significant improvements were noted in appetite and food intake, increased well-being and reduced weakness by self-examination. The most important adverse event was liver-associated toxicity. Overall, 35% of patients in the TID, 27% of patients in the BID oxymetholone group and no patients in the placebo group had a greater than five times baseline increase for alanine aminotransferase during the double-blind phase of the study.
CONCLUSIONS: Oxymetholone can be considered an effective anabolic steroid in eugonadal male and female patients with AIDS-associated wasting. The BID (100 mg/day) regimen appeared to be equally effective as the TID (150 mg/day) regimen in terms of weight gain, LBM and BCM and was associated with less, but still significant liver toxicity.
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^ great study Heavy!
Read my article in the ZBlog, anadrol is an awesome oral..
It is very harsh, but i dont really get bad sides from it.. drink plenty of water and tamper your dosages, i wouldnt just jump into 100mgs..
also, it doesnt combat with your other AAS's for receptors.. which is amazing imo
It is very harsh, but i dont really get bad sides from it.. drink plenty of water and tamper your dosages, i wouldnt just jump into 100mgs..
also, it doesnt combat with your other AAS's for receptors.. which is amazing imo
Var and bad sides
A-Bombs use to be the compound of choice if you wanted to get huge fast. I am talking over 20 years ago. It was either A-Bombs at 50 mg per day - or Dbol sust stack. We would run up to 100 mgs of Dbol daily and 500 mgs of sust weekly- NO PCT. Just reduce DBol at the end of cycle. Lots of guys grew very big off of this. Things have changed fer sure
Sorry about that-I MEANT to say Anadrol, not Anavar. Kind of a big difference there.
Keep us posted wrekem and keep your eye on the liver and blood counts just in case.Back in the old days we used to run Dbol at 100 mgs per day plus- no PCT. IF we had the $$$ - we would be running sust as high as 4 times per week and A-Bombs if we could afford. PCT was just not around. Is anybody else here that old to remember ? Shit- I am getting too fucking old- but we did crazy shit back then-Thanks-OD
yeah man, if im not picked for the contest, which would be okay, im still gonna pic/video log for the z fans. heres what my cycle is;
Weeks 1-15 Test E 500mg EW
Weeks 1-3 Anadrol 50mg ED, 4-5 Anadrol 100mg ED
Weeks 1-3 Dbol 20mg ED
Weeks 10-12 M1T (GP) 10mg ED
Weeks 6-15 EQ (GP) 500mg EW
I will have Arimidex, Nolva, and Letro on hand in case any problems occur. I would love to run all Z injects, but with the limit being 150, i dont wanna get stuck with 60 bucks of shit i didnt initially want, and not use the M1T i already bought. so meh. but it should be a hell of a second cycle
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Yes- better- faster gains- but more sides-OD
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Keep us posted wrekem and keep your eye on the liver and blood counts just in case.Back in the old days we used to run Dbol at 100 mgs per day plus- no PCT. IF we had the $$$ - we would be running sust as high as 4 times per week and A-Bombs if we could afford. PCT was just not around. Is anybody else here that old to remember ? Shit- I am getting too fucking old- but we did crazy shit back then-Thanks-OD
im an old fart too..i remember those days, my first cycle was in the late 80s. nobody did pct, we just let it rip.
Keep us posted wrekem and keep your eye on the liver and blood counts just in case.Back in the old days we used to run Dbol at 100 mgs per day plus- no PCT. IF we had the $$$ - we would be running sust as high as 4 times per week and A-Bombs if we could afford. PCT was just not around. Is anybody else here that old to remember ? Shit- I am getting too fucking old- but we did crazy shit back then-Thanks-OD
Wholly molly - Dbol at 100mg ed!!!
Hmm, now you're going to plant the seed - if 50mg is good ... "what would 100 do?"
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Wholly molly - Dbol at 100mg ed!!!
Hmm, now you're going to plant the seed - if 50mg is good ... "what would 100 do?"
Yea dbol 100mg ed count me out lol.
Yea dbol 100mg ed count me out lol.
Exactly - I thought I was a mad scientist...
... but 100mg of Dbol!
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I am currently running Z line A-bombs and have had no sides different than dbol yet although im still in my first week of the cycle.
First 10 days 25 mg ed
Next 30 days 50mg ed
Final 10 days 25mg ed
Z sust 250 750mg wk
No flair ups yet and i have Let and clomid for when it happens with novla ariving in the next 3 days just in case.
I will keep everyone posted of gains and sides. Any questions pm and i will try to answer them since im actually on the Z line A-bombs right now.
First 10 days 25 mg ed
Next 30 days 50mg ed
Final 10 days 25mg ed
Z sust 250 750mg wk
No flair ups yet and i have Let and clomid for when it happens with novla ariving in the next 3 days just in case.
I will keep everyone posted of gains and sides. Any questions pm and i will try to answer them since im actually on the Z line A-bombs right now.
