Good short cycle?

[vette1derek]

I was wondering if this cycle could be a good cycle for people on a small budget?

Week 1-4 500mg prop

Week 1-4 30mg d-bol(everyday)




If this cycle is bad what would be a good cheap/short cycle.

 

[GFR]

1-6 Test prop 150mg EOD

 

[vette1derek]

1-6 Test prop 150mg EOD

Thank you

 

[vette1derek]

Does a 6 weeker need HCG?

 

[GFR]

Does a 6 weeker need HCG?

no
but you need to do PCT

 

[pengers84]

what about 6 weeks of Test enthanate? Can you do that?

 

[MASS]

what about 6 weeks of Test enthanate? Can you do that?

You would probably see some gains but it would work much better over the 8-10 week range.

 

[Tough Old Man]

I was wondering if this cycle could be a good cycle for people on a small budget?

Week 1-4 500mg prop

Week 1-4 30mg d-bol(everyday)




If this cycle is bad what would be a good cheap/short cycle.

Perfect but extend the Prop to 6 weeks. You'll get plenty out of short 6 weekers. This is what i'm doing right now. 6 on 3 off and keep repeating and it's working out great.

 

[largepkg]

Perfect but extend the Prop to 6 weeks. You'll get plenty out of short 6 weekers. This is what i'm doing right now. 6 on 3 off and keep repeating and it's working out great.

TOM, I guess your doing three weeks of PCT between? Do you feel like you've completely bounced back prior to starting your next cycle?

 

[ZECH]

6 wks of Test E is too short. It takes 4 or so to kick in. You need to run it at least 10-12 weeks.

 

[19-chief]

6 wks of Test E is too short. It takes 4 or so to kick in. You need to run it at least 10-12 weeks.

sweet avi dg.

 

[GFR]

what about 6 weeks of Test enthanate? Can you do that?

Sure you can, it will work well if you are 100% natural but if you have only been off cycle for 3-6 months it won't work as well and you will need to bump it up to 8-10 weeks.

The idea that you can't use a long ester in a short cycle is preached 90% of the time by guys who have never tried it....In a 6 week cycle it will kick in by week 3 and continue working 1 or 2 weeks post cycle, so you will be at full dose in week 7 and still have gains coming till around week 8........

Short ester kicks in fast and stops working 4-5 days post cycle....long ester starts slow and stops working 1-2 weeks post cycle

 

[Tough Old Man]

TOM, I guess your doing three weeks of PCT between? Do you feel like you've completely bounced back prior to starting your next cycle?

No I don't do pct. I bridge (HRT) using Test E @ 250 mgs / ew for the three weeks and then hit it hard.

Tough

 

[Tough Old Man]

6 wks of Test E is too short. It takes 4 or so to kick in. You need to run it at least 10-12 weeks.

i have to disagree with you bro. I'm about to finish my third 6 week cycle and it's working awsome. There's another site (won't list it) that over 300 guys are using 4 on 2 off or 6 on and 3 off and all of them are doing great with gains and size.

As for myself the only way I'd gain more after 6 weeks would be to up the dose. Right now, I have used the same doses for all three cycle. Now I do rotate my cycles with different gear

Cycle 1 Test E @ 750 ew & EQ @ 800 ew
Cycle 2 Test Prop 200 oed & Tren A 150 eod
Cycle 3 Test E @ 750 ew & EQ @ 800 ew..I'm on week 5 now and still gaining strength and size
Cycle 4 Test Prop 200 oed & Tren A 150 eod

As you can see I use the same amount of doses for ea one...Works great

 

[pengers84]

Tough, i read briefly about the 6 weeks on 3 weeks off 6 weeks on then repeat method in Iron Mans section. Do you know why it is you dont have to do PCT with this method? Is there any website or research article that you know of that explains the science behind this?
cheers!

 

[FullGo]

tough correct me if im wrong but the reason he's not doing PCT pengers is because their is no post cycle. at least for 33 weeks 4 6 week cycles and 3 3week bridges that is if tough plans to stop after cycle 4 . and tough i understand the thought process behind the low dose bridges. thats enough testE to keep you from losing what u got out of 6 weeks. but what do you do when u completely come off. or do you plan to come off ? and i mean no offence to u i think this is a great ideal . its made a little light bulb come on in my head. but this is a 33week cycle

 

[Tough Old Man]

tough correct me if im wrong but the reason he's not doing PCT pengers is because their is no post cycle. at least for 33 weeks 4 6 week cycles and 3 3week bridges that is if tough plans to stop after cycle 4 . and tough i understand the thought process behind the low dose bridges. thats enough testE to keep you from losing what u got out of 6 weeks. but what do you do when u completely come off. or do you plan to come off ? and i mean no offence to u i think this is a great ideal . its made a little light bulb come on in my head. but this is a 33week cycle

I'm not stopping after cycle 4. I'm carrying this all the way through the end of this year.

I'm not going to come completely off. I will do HRT for the rest off my life. HellI'll be 54 by the time this cycle is over. If I were to come completely off it would be over a 4 month program Starting at 300 mg /ew and lowering doses ea month until I'm down to 50 mgs a week and then off with a good PCT

 

[FullGo]

well i guess its a 52weeker then . i like the concept but im not on HRT.and im 28yrs old.so if i planned to do 3 six weekers and then come off for a while . What should i do different. Add HCG? ramp down in dosage like u explained before PCT ?

 

[Tough Old Man]

well i guess its a 52weeker then . i like the concept but im not on HRT.and im 28yrs old.so if i planned to do 3 six weekers and then come off for a while . What should i do different. Add HCG? ramp down in dosage like u explained before PCT ?

Run (4) 6 weekers. Use the HCG as follows. Last 10 days of cycle plus the week after last injection..HCG @ 500 ius every three days. That's 6 injections of HCG. Then start PCT 2 weeks after last HCG injection if using long esters. If using short esters, run the HCG the same way and then start PCT the next day after the last HCG injection.

What do you want to run (gear). Do you want to run it like I'm doing and for about 6-7 months, or would you like to space them out. Tell me. Then I can tell you exactly what to do


Tough

 

[Tough Old Man]

To: FULLGO

Here's 4 6 week cycles spaced out

Week 1-6 Gear
Week 5 ½ thru end of week 7 HCG 500 ius every three
Week 8-10 PCT

Weeks 11-14 off completely

Weeks 15 ??? 20 gear
Weeks 19 ½ thru 21 HCG 500 ius every three
Weeks 22-24 PCT

Weeks 25-28 off completely

Weeks 29-34 gear
Weeks 33 ½ 35 HCG 500 ius every three
Weeks 36-38 PCT

Weeks 39-42 off completely

Weeks 43-48 Gear
Weeks 47 ½- 49 HCG 500 ius every three
Weeks 50 PCT


Now if you want to run them together, There will be no PCT. You just do your 6 week cycle and then run 250 mgs of Test ea week for three weeks and then start your next cycle.

Hope this helps.

 

[FullGo]

yea i was pretty much looking at doing the same. testE and EQ and test prop and tren A . with the bridge at 250mg testE a week. thanks tough im absorbing this shit like a sponge .