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So I got a ticket today from a cop using a radar gun on me from probably a quarter mile away. He stated I was going 63 in a 35. I was def speeding but in no way going 63. There was 2 cars right infront of me that I had been following for a little and if I was in fact going 63 I would have rear ended the car infront in a matter of seconds. Is this a good enough argument do you think?
 
its your word against his and they are always right in the judges eyes i tried this before and lost didn't get a lawyer u may have a chance with a lawyer but it may cost u more than the ticket. if you know how to talk you may be able to do something but its crap bro
 
Fuckkkk I don't mind the ticket cost but since it was 28 over I can't even go to traffic school to keep it from fucken with insurance.. Any chance that you can plea with them to have it not go on your insurance?
 
Nothing you can do. Try to get traffic court or pay the ticket. Cops are liers and judges will always believe them over you.
 
I would refocus my energy finding someone to fix the ticket. You don't stand a chance against his word.
 
How would I go about finding a lawyer to fight the ticket? Fucken 3 mph less and I wouldn't have to worry...
 
What state are you in. Check out the ticket clinic I think they have a website
 
write a trial by written declaration and/or hire a lawyer and get him to seek a deal with the prosecution to reduce the speed in return for a "guilty" plea from you
 
I think you should be able to get this take care of. From what I hear ticket clinic is pretty solid. I would go with this. It should help you some. I also think that a lawyer wouldn't be a bad choice actually. It will keep the ticket from going on your record at least. Shouldn't be a problem at all. Let me know what you find out.
 
from what i understand if you go to court and the cop don't show-up...don't u win?
 
Alright I'm at school right now so Ill look at the ticket clinic after I get out, thanks for all the help guys. I don't give a shit about fines, just don't want it on my insurance lol...
 
I avoid this by not speeding more than 7-8 miles over the limit in 45& up and never on 30&below areas, and creating a map of every place I have seen a cop sitting or a speed trap set up, also knowing when shift changes come....
 
I didn't even see them til they were flagging me down.. No more speeding lol.
 
This worked for my lil bro when he was on his R1. Maybe use some of it as a template for yours?


STATEMENT OF FACTS
Defendant's Name:
I respectfully submit this written declaration to the Court pursuant to CVC40902. I plead Not Guilty to the charge of violating CVC 22350.The facts of my case are as follows: While riding on Bearvalley Road on mymotorcycle on 1-18-12, when i got boxed in by multiple vehicles. Having hadmy class M-1 license for 3 years, I know that being boxed in is not safe.Thankfully the vehicle in front of me changed lanes, so for my safety andthe saftey of my fellow motrists, I breifly sped up as instructed by theDMV Motorcylce Hand Book ("Vehicles Alongside: Do not ride next topassenger vehicles or trucks in other lanes if you don?t have to becauseyou might be in the driver?s blind spot. The driver could change laneswithout warning. Also, vehicles in the next lane can block your escape ifyou come upon danger in your own lane. Speed up or drop back to find aplace clear of traffic on both sides.") to get myself out of a dangeroussituation. I then was stopped by Officer D. Holland and was charged withviolating CVC 22350. The Officer has alleged that I was driving 64mph in a50mph zone based on Radar evidence. I believe that I was drivingapproximately 55mph at the time of my stop and that my speed was quite safefor a 6 lane highway with a center for the prevailing conditions.The Basic Speed Law, CVC 22350, states: "No person shall drive a vehicleupon a highway at a speed greater than is reasonable or prudent having dueregard for weather, visibility, the traffic on, and the surface and widthof the highway, and in no event at a speed which endangers the safety ofpersons or property."At the time of my stop, the road was dry and clear with light traffic. Onmy citation, the officer marks that the traffic was "medium," but stated hesaw no one around me. No persons or property were put at risk. As such, theOfficer does not make a credible case that I was in violation of the BasicSpeed Law.Further, I believe that the posted speed of 50mph on Bearvalley Road isartificially low, reflecting an out-of-date traffic and engineering surveyand, as such, may constitute an illegal Speed Trap pursuant to CVC40802(a)(2), which defines an illegal radar speed trap as "a particularsection of a highway with a...speed limit that is provided by thiscode...[which] limit is not justified by an engineering and traffic surveyconducted within five years prior to the date of the alleged violation, andenforcement of the speed limit involves the use of radar or any otherelectronic device that measures the speed of moving objects." If thetraffic survey on Bearvalley Road is more than five years old, theofficer's use of radar to determine my speed was illegal.When using radar evidence, the prosecution is required to prove that theuse of radar is not an illegal speed trap. Speed Trap Evidence 40803(b)states "In any prosecution under this code of a charge involving the speedof a vehicle, where enforcement involves the use of radar or otherelectronic devices which measure the speed of moving objects, theprosecution shall establish, as part of its prima facie case, that theevidence or testimony presented is not based upon a speed trap as definedin paragraph (2) of subdivision (a) of Section 40802."If the prosecution does not attach proof with its written declaration (acertified copy of the speed survey) to establish as part of its prima faciecase, that Sorrento Valley Road is not an illegal Speed Trap, as they arerequired to do pursuant to CVC 40803(b), I trust the Court will rule theradar evidence inadmissible and dismiss my case pursuant to CVC 40805.CVC 40805, Admission of Speed Trap Evidence, states:"Every court shall bewithout jurisdiction to render a judgment of conviction against any personfor violation of this code involving the speed of a vehicle if the courtadmits any evidence or testimony secured in violation of, or which isinadmissible under this article."I trust in the Court's fairness and ask that my citation be dismissed inthe interest of justice.If the court does not find in my favor in this case, I would like torequest traffic school.I declare under penalty of perjury under the laws of the State ofCalifornia that the foregoing is true and correct.Date: April 23, 2012
 
Fuckkkk I don't mind the ticket cost but since it was 28 over I can't even go to traffic school to keep it from fucken with insurance.. Any chance that you can plea with them to have it not go on your insurance?

at our court these mofos will take double the cost to keep it off "if its your first time paying double"
 
This worked for my lil bro when he was on his R1. Maybe use some of it as a template for yours?


STATEMENT OF FACTS
Defendant's Name:
I respectfully submit this written declaration to the Court pursuant to CVC40902. I plead Not Guilty to the charge of violating CVC 22350.The facts of my case are as follows: While riding on Bearvalley Road on mymotorcycle on 1-18-12, when i got boxed in by multiple vehicles. Having hadmy class M-1 license for 3 years, I know that being boxed in is not safe.Thankfully the vehicle in front of me changed lanes, so for my safety andthe saftey of my fellow motrists, I breifly sped up as instructed by theDMV Motorcylce Hand Book ("Vehicles Alongside: Do not ride next topassenger vehicles or trucks in other lanes if you don?t have to becauseyou might be in the driver?s blind spot. The driver could change laneswithout warning. Also, vehicles in the next lane can block your escape ifyou come upon danger in your own lane. Speed up or drop back to find aplace clear of traffic on both sides.") to get myself out of a dangeroussituation. I then was stopped by Officer D. Holland and was charged withviolating CVC 22350. The Officer has alleged that I was driving 64mph in a50mph zone based on Radar evidence. I believe that I was drivingapproximately 55mph at the time of my stop and that my speed was quite safefor a 6 lane highway with a center for the prevailing conditions.The Basic Speed Law, CVC 22350, states: "No person shall drive a vehicleupon a highway at a speed greater than is reasonable or prudent having dueregard for weather, visibility, the traffic on, and the surface and widthof the highway, and in no event at a speed which endangers the safety ofpersons or property."At the time of my stop, the road was dry and clear with light traffic. Onmy citation, the officer marks that the traffic was "medium," but stated hesaw no one around me. No persons or property were put at risk. As such, theOfficer does not make a credible case that I was in violation of the BasicSpeed Law.Further, I believe that the posted speed of 50mph on Bearvalley Road isartificially low, reflecting an out-of-date traffic and engineering surveyand, as such, may constitute an illegal Speed Trap pursuant to CVC40802(a)(2), which defines an illegal radar speed trap as "a particularsection of a highway with a...speed limit that is provided by thiscode...[which] limit is not justified by an engineering and traffic surveyconducted within five years prior to the date of the alleged violation, andenforcement of the speed limit involves the use of radar or any otherelectronic device that measures the speed of moving objects." If thetraffic survey on Bearvalley Road is more than five years old, theofficer's use of radar to determine my speed was illegal.When using radar evidence, the prosecution is required to prove that theuse of radar is not an illegal speed trap. Speed Trap Evidence 40803(b)states "In any prosecution under this code of a charge involving the speedof a vehicle, where enforcement involves the use of radar or otherelectronic devices which measure the speed of moving objects, theprosecution shall establish, as part of its prima facie case, that theevidence or testimony presented is not based upon a speed trap as definedin paragraph (2) of subdivision (a) of Section 40802."If the prosecution does not attach proof with its written declaration (acertified copy of the speed survey) to establish as part of its prima faciecase, that Sorrento Valley Road is not an illegal Speed Trap, as they arerequired to do pursuant to CVC 40803(b), I trust the Court will rule theradar evidence inadmissible and dismiss my case pursuant to CVC 40805.CVC 40805, Admission of Speed Trap Evidence, states:"Every court shall bewithout jurisdiction to render a judgment of conviction against any personfor violation of this code involving the speed of a vehicle if the courtadmits any evidence or testimony secured in violation of, or which isinadmissible under this article."I trust in the Court's fairness and ask that my citation be dismissed inthe interest of justice.If the court does not find in my favor in this case, I would like torequest traffic school.I declare under penalty of perjury under the laws of the State ofCalifornia that the foregoing is true and correct.Date: April 23, 2012
Hmmm this could work. I was side by side with a semi and sped up and my guess is that I got pulled over as I came past the semi..
 
Hell it will at least look like you had a lawyer write it and should get their attention.

Cops: "Department of public disservice. To harass and annoy" that's what should be on the side of their cars.
 
You might be able to get the speed limit lowered so you don't have it on your insurance but you will still get the ticket.
 
I got a Jay-Walking ticket 2 weeks ago on the most crime infested corner of Atlanta. I am not going to even try to beat it, but the judge is getting an earful from me about how the cops are busy writing tickets to get revenue off of me while ignoring the 20 crack dealers that try to sell me dope everyday while I wait at the fucking bus stop. Also, I am going to tell him the truth which is that I jay-walked to stay the fuck away from the scum that sits on the street corners everyday begging for cigarettes and selling drugs in plain site.

Perhaps people wouldn't jay walk if the fucking streets were a little cleaner and safer, but that would take actual work, and the doughnut eating mother fuckers downtown would quit their job before doing any protecting or serving. I'll leave the doughnut eating mother fuckers part out, but the rest will be said if I get the chance. If I go off the radar soon, it will probably be because I am in jail for contempt of court.

I'll also take my paperwork from my shrink showing that I am mental. Having extreme social anxiety disorder might be a decent defense for why I avoided the cross-walk at the corner. We'll see.
 
I got a Jay-Walking ticket 2 weeks ago on the most crime infested corner of Atlanta.

only in the US!

most OECD country's it's an unenforceable offense.
 
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