Got my M1T

[Calmdwn]

So i got my M1T in the mail today. I have done all the reading and research as far as pros and cons. This will be my first PH cycle. What do you suggest for dose and duration?

 

[HoldDaMayo]

10mg a day for two weeks followed by PCT

 

[Arnold]

Originally posted by Calmdwn
This will be my first PH cycle.

M1T is not a PH, it's an anabolic steroid.

not a good choice for your first cycle, you should do a cycle of S1+ or something, even 1-AD/4-AD if you want orals.

 

[Calmdwn]

Really, that little? My other question. God forbid i get signs of gyno, do you stop the PH immedialty, or continue and add nolva? And how much nolva for how long?

 

[Arnold]

you missed my post.

 

[Calmdwn]

Re: Re: Got my M1T

Originally posted by Prince
M1T is not a PH, it's an anabolic steroid.

not a good choice for your first cycle, you should do a cycle of S1+ or something, even 1-AD/4-AD if you want orals.

Ok, why do you say its not a good choice for my first cycle?

 

[Arnold]

because it is very powerful and toxic.

suit yourself though.

 

[Calmdwn]

Originally posted by Prince
because it is very powerful and toxic.

suit yourself though.

Well at this point i already bought it. After all the great things i heard about it i certainly didnt think i was making the wrong choice. Im more concerned with the chance of gyno and how to remedy it. I can see that you think i would be better off to use something else, but since i have it could you give me some guidance on a dose and what to do in the event of gyno?

 

[Var]

Originally posted by Calmdwn
So i got my M1T in the mail today. I have done all the reading and research as far as pros and cons. This will be my first PH cycle. What do you suggest for dose and duration?

It does NOT seem like you've done all the reading and research at all. Do you have your PCT on hand?

 

[Arnold]

Originally posted by Calmdwn
Well at this point i already bought it. After all the great things i heard about it i certainly didnt think i was making the wrong choice. Im more concerned with the chance of gyno and how to remedy it. I can see that you think i would be better off to use something else, but since i have it could you give me some guidance on a dose and what to do in the event of gyno?

it will not expire for around 2 years, so you could always get some S1+ and do a cycle of that first.

HoldDaMayo's advice was good, do 10mg's (1 tab morning, 1 tab evening) for 2 weeks.

 

[Calmdwn]

Re: Re: Got my M1T

Originally posted by Var
It does NOT seem like you've done all the reading and research at all. Do you have your PCT on hand?

I have read the PH FAQ's. I have 6-oxo on hand, and am waiting on the nolva before i start anything. I havent come across anything that says what someone useing for the first time should do. I already bought it because i know how fast they sold out last time. So i will continue to reseach before starting. I relaize the subject has been beat to death, but im looking for guidance, and to have solid answers to all my questions before starting. If there is somewhere else besides the PH FAQ's that i could read, ill be glad to do so. But i dont know where that is.

 

[Var]

If we get kind of blunt with our responses on this, its because M1T is a STEROID. Its pretty serious. Read Princes post above. Thats my recommendation for sure.

 

[Calmdwn]

Originally posted by Prince
it will not expire for around 2 years, so you could always get some S1+ and do a cycle of that first.

HoldDaMayo's advice was good, do 10mg's (1 tab morning, 1 tab evening) for 2 weeks.

Ok, now in the FAQ's they tell you dosing of 6-oxo for 4 weeks. Is 4 weeks PCT still necessay for a 2 weeks cycle of 10mg a day?

 

[HoldDaMayo]

depends on the person.... if you have alot of strong side effects, then yes... if you felt the cycle was pretty mild and dont' see much hair loss or any extra sensitivity in the nipples... 2-3 weeks is going to be fine...

There isn't a strict rule on these things, people react diifferently, please, if anything, listen to your body, and if you feel like something's up.... stop the cycle, start your PCT and start with S1+ like Prince recommended.... or even 1-AD...

 

[Var]

Generally, a good rule of thumb is to run PCT = amount of time u were on cycle. Since M1T shuts you down so hard, I'd probably go 3-4 weeks PCT.

 

[Arnold]

I don't think people understand what they're buying and using when they order M1T, I am starting to understand why Mike does not want to manufacture it anymore.

 

[Var]

Fuel to the fire of getting these things banned, too.

 

[Calmdwn]

I know i dont have all the knowledge needed to start using this now, and that is the reason for this post. I just would hate to see it sold out and or banned before i gather all my info, then i never have the chance to try it. Once i am confident that i know all i need to know about it, then i will use it. Im not gonna start popping them like candy and hurt myself. And i would hate to be considerd a person who helped get it banned. I am sorry if my questions seem irratating and/or stupid, but its the only way ill learn.

 

[IronSlingah]

Re: Re: Got my M1T

Originally posted by Prince
M1T is not a PH, it's an anabolic steroid.

not a good choice for your first cycle, you should do a cycle of S1+ or something, even 1-AD/4-AD if you want orals.

Are you saying your body builds up a resistance to the toxicity of S1+ so then using M1T would be safer?

 

[Var]

Sounds like a good plan. Keep researching and get on the stuff once you sure you have your ducks in a row. Like I said before, if we get blunt about this, its because its a serious issue. Also, its rare to see a M1T question that hasnt been asked a thousand times and can be found by doing a search on this forum. BTW...if u decide to try S1+ first as Prince recommended, you wont be disappointed. Assuming your diet and training is in order, you'll make impressive gains with that stuff.

 

[HoldDaMayo]

it's a good way of identifying how your body reacts...

For instance, if you were to have poison... and you had a weaker and a stronger poison... would you start with the stronger? or start with the weaker to assess tolerance and then move on to the stronger.

 

[IronSlingah]

Originally posted by HoldDaMayo
it's a good way of identifying how your body reacts...

For instance, if you were to have poison... and you had a weaker and a stronger poison... would you start with the stronger? or start with the weaker to assess tolerance and then move on to the stronger.

What youre saying would imply that your body can build up a resistance to M1T or any PH/PS so eventually the dose youd have to take to get the same effects would go higher and higher. Im just asking if thats true since im still researching M1T before i use it.

 

[Var]

S1+ is also better IMO for a newbie because they are less likely to understand hepatoxicity and what supps will help prevent it. S1+ is transdermal and does not make the first pass through the liver the way orals do.

 

[Var]

Originally posted by IronSlingah
What youre saying would imply that your body can build up a resistance to M1T or any PH/PS so eventually the dose youd have to take to get the same effects would go higher and higher. Im just asking if thats true since im still researching M1T before i use it.

Your receptors do build up a tolerance over time, but that is not what they were getting at when recommending S1+ for a first cycle

 

[HoldDaMayo]

Originally posted by Var
Your receptors do build up a tolerance over time, but that is not what they were getting at when recommending S1+ for a first cycle

exactly...

 

[SJ69]

I'd do (and have done) 20 mg 1st wk, 30 mg wk-2 then taper down for 5 days followed by pct
20mg Tomoxifin ed 15-18 days.
Some might suggest 40mg ed for 1st wk

 

[Var]

Why would u taper? You're still gonna be shutdown

 

[HoldDaMayo]

Originally posted by SJ69
I'd do (and have done) 20 mg 1st wk, 30 mg wk-2 then taper down for 5 days followed by pct
20mg Tomoxifin ed 15-18 days.
Some might suggest 40mg ed for 1st wk

no one would recommend that for a first PH/steroid cycle...

 

[Eggs]

Originally posted by SJ69
I'd do (and have done) 20 mg 1st wk, 30 mg wk-2 then taper down for 5 days followed by pct
20mg Tomoxifin ed 15-18 days.
Some might suggest 40mg ed for 1st wk

I think that 10mg - 15mg would suit the chap fine if he decides he is going to do this.

He could probably hold out on that until the 2nd or 3rd cycle... and I dont know if I'd recommended at all 40mg ed to a guy that one doesnt even know or the peculiarities of his body.

 

[Var]

Originally posted by Eggs
I think that 10mg - 15mg would suit the chap fine if he decides he is going to do this.

He could probably hold out on that until the 2nd or 3rd cycle... and I dont know if I'd recommended at all 40mg ed to a guy that one doesnt even know or the peculiarities of his body.

Agreed! Also, even seasoned users are seeing gains with lower doses.