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Great Good Mornings

Shawn Bellon

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Ok before you flip the page I am not talking about some perky person in the morning. A person that in spite of how tired you are and wish NOT to speak to mankind is jovial and in fact excited to be awake. Don???t get me wrong I love being awake???after about 10 am with a few good cups of coffee and a Dren.

I am obviously referring to a lift. Hey that is why I am here to share information to get you stronger. Good mornings happen to be one of my favorite movements that works the posterior chain (glutes, hams, errectors and soleus) while really improving a lifters strength and efficiency in the squat and deadlift.

Good mornings can have some variations to them but for our purposes we will go with the standard movement.

??? You will rest the bar on your shoulders similar to a power squat meaning the bar will be on the rear delts.

??? Keep the back engaged and the abs tight. Think of sucking in your belly button to support the spine.

??? Lean forward at the hips to lower the upper body until you are about parallel to the floor. Many times I have clients go until the see the bar on the top of their traps at the bottom position of the lift for good depth.

??? As you lean forward bend the knees slightly to keep your balance and support your back. Do not attempt to do the movement with your legs locked. Locked knees will be too much on the joint, lower back and overall balance.

??? Raise your torso while keeping the head up and driving the hips forward to the start position.

??? Repeat

Good mornings can be used as assistance work for squats and deadlifts. I have a few athletes that alternate weeks with deadlifts to go heavy with good mornings as their core lift. There are many options but keep it sensible especially to start out. It is always far better to undertrain especially with a new movement than to overcompensate and fry your CNS.

Day 1:

Squat ??? power scheme

Good mornings ??? 3 x 10 80% max

Day 5:

Deads or Good mornings ??? power scheme

**If doing deads that session for the core exercise feel free to use the good mornings as a simple 5??5 scheme while keep reps in the 60-75% range.**

***If doing good mornings as the core exercise hit some romanian deadlifts or straight leg deadlifts for a simple 5??5 scheme with 60-75% range.***

****The 60-75% range can be cycled for week to week for you can add 5% until you cap at 75% at the fourth session and then start over at 60% again.****

Safety is something I preach with clients. Strong means nothing if you are hurt so we always try to be smart and intelligent in our programming. Here are a few points to consider when adding good mornings to your own training:

Warm up the body with 5-10 minutes on a treadmill, exercise bike or rower. Use whatever cardio you like but use the time to warm up the body literally.

Once done warming up with cardio take some time to foam roll, pvc roll and use a lacross ball for trigger points. Using these movements for self myofasical release will not only improve your strength as a lifter but prevent many injuries. These activities can break up adhesions and relax overactive muscle fibers.

Stretch! The muscles are warm and relaxed from the previous steps so use that to work on stretching properly. Nice passive stretching with no bouncing for 20-30 seconds will work nicely. If you need more time then by all means stretch more.

Use your warm upsets with some intelligence. Warm ups shouldn???t make you tired. Warm ups should be a gradual increase to get your body ready for heavier weights. Warm ups are also a great time to actively assess your training. If your second warm up feels like a ton then take some time to ask yourself if what you are doing is correct. Look back at your journal. (soon to be the next step mentioned) If the warm ups are off then adjust. I had a client that struggled in her warm ups while deadlifting. She was just having an off day. She finished her last warm up and decided to call it a day. I am not saying to ditch training sessions. I am saying that your workout programming is written on paper and many times has no understanding or regard to how you feel at the moment so adjust when needed.

Write this stuff down. How is this a safety concern? Really? Come one people! Keeping track of your numbers is a key safety issue to avoid using too much weight etc. Look around your gym. See how many people just guess and fail with their weights. Guessing leads to injuries. When we train we are not in the business of guessing. We are in the business of success with proven methodologies that transcend a coin flip.

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Static stretching prior to lifting is no longer recommended. Static stretching activates the muscle spindles and golgi tendon organs which in turn communicates w the Cns to tell the muscle to relax to prevent injury. This "relaxing" of the muscle prior to engaging in sports that require strength and explosiveness actually decreases performance.
Additionally, stretching before a workout has never shown to decrease injury. Warming up, w dynamic stretching, and cardio has.
Being flexible and strong are negatively associated w sports injuries, this is why static stretching should be done after a workout.
 
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Static stretching prior to lifting is no longer recommended. Static stretching activates the muscle spindles and golgi tendon organs which in turn communicates w the Cns to tell the muscle to relax to prevent injury. This "relaxing" of the muscle prior to engaging in sports that require strength and explosiveness actually decreases performance.
Additionally, stretching before a workout has never shown to decrease injury. Warming up, w dynamic stretching, and cardio has.
Being flexible and strong are negatively associated w sports injuries, this is why static stretching should be done after a workout.

Cut and paste...and antiquated response. Things have changed.
 
Cut and paste...and antiquated response. Things have changed.

lol, actually I wrote that. I know a little about exercise physiology. :nerd: do a search if you don't believe me. I guess ACSM isn't an authority on exercise science?
 
Well, whoever wrote it there is plenty of research to disagree.

National Academy of Sports Medicine is pretty authoritative on the subject.
 
I am just curious about your whole agenda? Please try to trump someone else.
 
I am just curious about your whole agenda? Please try to trump someone else.

I have no agenda, just starting a discussion. I have no doubt that you know tons about exercise physiology, I'm just questioning some of your methods, hopefully respectfully.
 
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Dude, seriously you are debating on stretching? Go somewhere else.

From the same NASM document. Pretty clear that nothing is conclusive in either capacity. And certainly in the area of corrective exercise it would be imperative to stretch first.

However, there exist some contradictory studies which reveal that static stretching may increase lower-limb stiffness resulting in higher countermovement jumps (21) and potentially having no impact on vertical jump heights. (22) Of potential importance is the varied approach to the subject of pre-activity static stretching. Hunter presented a study that looked at the effects of static stretching over a duration of weeks (static stretching integrated into a 10-week program) versus the acute effects of static stretching on performance (done immediately following the stretching protocols).
 
what is the reasoning for pre exercise stretching? If it doesn't improve performance, and it doesnt' prevent injuries, and it may negatively affect performance, why do it?
 
This is from the nasm article too:


  • There is moderate evidence to indicate that regular stretching improves ROM, strength, performance, and decreases injury risk in healthy individuals without identified limitations in flexibility.
  • There is moderate evidence to indicate that acute, pre-exercise stretching performed in isolation decreases strength and performance and does not affect injury risk in healthy individuals without identified limitations in flexibility.
 
don't want to stick my nose where it doesn't belong - but when the whole controversy was brewing about whether the guys trying to push the walls (ie static stretching) before training were harming or helping themselves, we had a large group of power lifters warm up in 2 separate groups - half with static stretching and half by doing some quick cardio and and some swings. The whole group who did static stretching were able to do on average about 20% less weight than usual, while those who warmed up with cardio,etc all said that they felt "in the groove".
Just my 2c fwiw
 
what is the reasoning for pre exercise stretching? If it doesn't improve performance, and it doesnt' prevent injuries, and it may negatively affect performance, why do it?

Ah but then we are back to the argument of improving performance. I simply think you are quiet wrong and you feel the same.
 
This is from the nasm article too:


  • There is moderate evidence to indicate that regular stretching improves ROM, strength, performance, and decreases injury risk in healthy individuals without identified limitations in flexibility.
  • There is moderate evidence to indicate that acute, pre-exercise stretching performed in isolation decreases strength and performance and does not affect injury risk in healthy individuals without identified limitations in flexibility.

Again why debate anything that is anything but conclusive. Really pretty silly to argue about stretching.
 
This is from the nasm article too:


  • There is moderate evidence to indicate that regular stretching improves ROM, strength, performance, and decreases injury risk in healthy individuals without identified limitations in flexibility.
  • There is moderate evidence to indicate that acute, pre-exercise stretching performed in isolation decreases strength and performance and does not affect injury risk in healthy individuals without identified limitations in flexibility.

How up to date is that on the NASM Cert ?
 
Again why debate anything that is anything but conclusive. Really pretty silly to argue about stretching.
Give it up dude, the newest, most conclusive studies show that static stretching should not be done before the activity. You just didn't know and nobody is blaming you but damn you don't have to be a hard ass. Changing your mind when presented with better information than what you previously possessed doesn't make you weak. This is a bodybuilding forum, we do discuss the "best" way to do everything bodybuilding related.
 
What about cardio for warm-up, then some foam rolling, then throwing the weight around. My trainer says the rolling gets the blood flowing. . .
 
Yes that is always a good thing to do daily if possible.

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Give it up dude, the newest, most conclusive studies show that static stretching should not be done before the activity. You just didn't know and nobody is blaming you but damn you don't have to be a hard ass. Changing your mind when presented with better information than what you previously possessed doesn't make you weak. This is a bodybuilding forum, we do discuss the "best" way to do everything bodybuilding related.

I appreciate that. I just don't agree on the opposing view. It's a debatable topic whenever research is involved.

Even in my own training I use what I recommended with good results.

But I say this again...its a debate about stretching?

I would like to think that the actual article was appreciated for what it is about...and its not stretching.

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I appreciate that. I just don't agree on the opposing view. It's a debatable topic whenever research is involved.

Even in my own training I use what I recommended with good results.

But I say this again...its a debate about stretching?

I would like to think that the actual article was appreciated for what it is about...and its not stretching.

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If stretching noticeably affects one's training, then it is worth straightening out. It's like having a part of a recipe wrong, the cake might still be pretty good but not as good as if you followed the correct recipe.
 
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