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Havoc First Time Cycle.
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He was asking a PCT. His havoc dose is all set.
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And I would drop all that other crap like glucosamine. Waste of money. Hawthorn berry too. I used to work at GNC and all OTC supps other than protein are shit unless u like placebos. Your blood pressure and liver arent going to be affected by havoc or saved by garbage supps in a short cycle. If u have bp issues, tell your doctor and get real meds.
Ive done havoc with no pct and was fine. Clomid isn't a bad idea tho. Other than that it's food and training
Ive done havoc with no pct and was fine. Clomid isn't a bad idea tho. Other than that it's food and training
What? Week 3 is when havoc starts producing results. If anything running it 6 weeks would be ideal but 5 will be fine.
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I always gained a ton in the first 3 weeks on any oral and gains slowed to nothing after that
Jadean addressed the first thing... Epi doesn't solidly kick in until week 3. So why would you do a 3 week cycle of a compound and stop when it starts taking effect, doesn't make sense? Everyone is different so it's possible Epi is fully effective the first week for you, I highly doubt it though.
OTC supps are shit... hahaha! Yeah that's why Hawthorne Berry has been proven to help with blood pressure, medically proven. So he is gonna go to his doc due to BP issues and doc will ask why. He will lie cause he isn't gonna tell him the truth, and doc will do tests when simply taking Hawthorne Berry would have alleviated that problem and hassle. No liver support with a methylated compound? Go ahead and fuck your own liver up. Methylated compounds put stress on the liver, so a liver supplement like Liv52 helps cleanse the liver and protect it by reducing some of the strain. Fish oil, thats an OTC supp too, oh god, where do I begin! All the proven medical benefits of fish oil. Yeah it doesn't work at all. For you to say that Havoc won't affect your bp or liver, you must be out of your freaking mind!
You wanna fuck your own body up that's fine. I'm glad you worked at GNC where you learned to push those shitty ass placebos like Muscle Tech, but don't say all OCT supps are placebos unless you can prove it with backing.
OTC supps are shit... hahaha! Yeah that's why Hawthorne Berry has been proven to help with blood pressure, medically proven. So he is gonna go to his doc due to BP issues and doc will ask why. He will lie cause he isn't gonna tell him the truth, and doc will do tests when simply taking Hawthorne Berry would have alleviated that problem and hassle. No liver support with a methylated compound? Go ahead and fuck your own liver up. Methylated compounds put stress on the liver, so a liver supplement like Liv52 helps cleanse the liver and protect it by reducing some of the strain. Fish oil, thats an OTC supp too, oh god, where do I begin! All the proven medical benefits of fish oil. Yeah it doesn't work at all. For you to say that Havoc won't affect your bp or liver, you must be out of your freaking mind!
You wanna fuck your own body up that's fine. I'm glad you worked at GNC where you learned to push those shitty ass placebos like Muscle Tech, but don't say all OCT supps are placebos unless you can prove it with backing.
Yes, x2 to everything that is in this post.
synthetickid
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Thanks for helping me again, I would rep you for every post if it didn't make me spread it all around and yea even I know this guy has no clue what hes talking about
synthetickid
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im in the 2nd week of pct right now and my libido is shot..is this normal? when should it go back to normal? also all the gains I expected to make on cycle never happened but ever since pct my strength is increasing...weird?
