HCGenerate???

[XYZ]

Here is the truth from someone who knows.

This EF post will probably get me Banned for good. (Needto posts inside)

HAHAHAHAHA Needto [updated]

You can now make your own decision.

 

[juggernaut]

 

[OutWhey]

By itself to recover after a cycle? Obviously not, I'm talking about as an addition to Nolva, aromasin, and hcg before pct. No offense but to make an assumption that any OTC is b/s is somewhat ignorant. I have actually found Tribulus to be effective at upping test for libido/mood purposes, not for any real difference in muscle gain...but it did have a positive effect post cycle.

HCGenerate alone will not provide the best PCT. It should be ran with your PCT. But is a great product. I always take during my cruise.

 

[jbryand101b]

Here is the truth from someone who knows.

This EF post will probably get me Banned for good. (Needto posts inside)

HAHAHAHAHA Needto [updated]

You can now make your own decision.

people grow, and people learn, im sure alot has changed in two years. I know I have from where I was at two years ago.

And I hope I have changed more so and continue to learn as time goes on.

one can look at my post about steroids from two years ago and laugh at the ridiculousness of them.
I'm no expert, but I certainly know alot more than most people. and still have ton's to learn.

 

[XYZ]

This is NOT just based on two years time. IF you take the time to read both threads you would have a better understanding.

I just don't see how 100's of people can say the same basic thing over years of time, and yet there are still others who will not believe and instead defend even when they know it's wrong; and no this is not intentionally directed toward you.

Can people change, yes, but I've seen this entire thing unfold from a far and I know that the more things change the more they have stayed the same. In this particular case anyhow.

You can take a skunk out of the ghetto and put it in a luxury neighborhood, but at the end of the day, it's still a skunk.

 

[jbryand101b]

well, i've only been around for a few years, so im still fairly new. time reveals all to those who wait. you cant hide your true self forever.

 

[XYZ]

Did you happen to READ the threads?

 

[jbryand101b]

I did, I did. it was quite entertaining, and interesting at the same time. I like to look at all sides of the story, and make my opinion on stuff. right now, im undecided, cause im still too new to the scene. there are a lot of stupid people quoting non sense about steroids. you can find them on every board.

Those threads are def something to take into consideration. thank you.

 

[needtogetaas]

How about you suck my big fat fucking cock and stop riding ulters dick.
That shits nothing but a pile of hate because I am doing so damn well and they have to settle for running shitting ass research chem sites now..

That Whole thread is one big joke to me and I laugh all the way to the bank daily well they cry like the little bitches they are. Eat my dick!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Dont like me? To fucking bad I ain't going nowhere any time soon.

BTW I control the advertising money of about 8 of this sites sponsors. Go ahead and keep pissing me the fuck off. Watch me fucker.

 

[BarbellBeast]

needto is a very good dude, why all the hate?!

this shit is a joke needto..

I smell jealousy. Fuck the haters.

 

[jbryand101b]

From my experience, needto has been nothing but generous and friendly to me. For me personaly, from what he has shown me, he is a good man, who I have no ill feelings toward.

Any time I have a disagreement with something going on, he does his best to talk with me, and hear my concerns.

I have seen a lot of people who dislike him and his company. I can not speak for them, but for me, he has been nothing but honorable.

 

[M-Rods]

From my experience, needto has been nothing but generous and friendly to me. For me personaly, from what he has shown me, he is a good man, who I have no ill feelings toward.

Any time I have a disagreement with something going on, he does his best to talk with me, and hear my concerns.

I have seen a lot of people who dislike him and his company. I can not speak for them, but for me, he has been nothing but honorable.

The same goes for me, as far as Hcgenerate, try it, if you dont like get a fucking refund!!!

I used it twice now, and when my libido dropped, it and my hardons came back after 3-4 days of taking 5 caps a day, I don't have any studies to back anything up except my own use, so for me I'll use it each time as a PART of my PCT.

Everyone is entitled to an opinion, whether we agree or not, if people want to hate because of what they read on the internet so be it

 

[Gamer2be08]

Ya, needto is a pretty upstanding man if you get to know him..

And I am on HCGenerate now on cycle and it has brought mass back to my testis.. Nuff said..

There is no reason to call NeedTo out just because he is doing so well in life..

 

[OutWhey]

Need is a great guy and one of the best in the business. He offers the best to everyone he can

 

[SBT]

The same goes for me, as far as Hcgenerate, try it, if you dont like get a fucking refund!!!

I used it twice now, and when my libido dropped, it and my hardons came back after 3-4 days of taking 5 caps a day, I don't have any studies to back anything up except my own use, so for me I'll use it each time as a PART of my PCT.

Everyone is entitled to an opinion, whether we agree or not, if people want to hate because of what they read on the internet so be it

All very good points, especially the first part. Needful backs his stuff 100% so you've got nothing to lose by trying this out!!

 

[XYZ]

The same goes for me, as far as Hcgenerate, try it, if you dont like get a fucking refund!!!

I used it twice now, and when my libido dropped, it and my hardons came back after 3-4 days of taking 5 caps a day, I don't have any studies to back anything up except my own use, so for me I'll use it each time as a PART of my PCT.

Everyone is entitled to an opinion, whether we agree or not, if people want to hate because of what they read on the internet so be it

Aren't you a "sponsored Needtobuildmuscle" person?

I agree with what you're saying in regards to people reading things on the internet, which is not the case between Nathan and myself. I know first hand of his "ways" from years ago.

 

[GREBECK]

I could care less about all this stupid non-sense. I remember when it was fun to go to different boards and research and learn on your own and make YOUR OWN decision's! Now every where you go it's all companies bashing each other which is sad, for people would benefit much more if it were not like this! Oh well, sorry for the rant I just wanted to say that last year I used HCGENERATE for it was all hyped up with a natty supp stack I put together and I made an awesome body recomp. Was very happy with my results and would recommend it and will take it again. Again this is just my opinion, so please don't come bashing me for simply stating my opinion! Hope everyone is well and breaking PR's!

 

[chocolatemilk]

CT there are two sides to every story.

You have your story and many MANY others have their own about Needto with being a good guy and helping people out big time.

Also let me guess... you have never used HCGenerate?

It's usually the case. 99.9% of the time people talk trash about a product... they have not even tried it.

I talked sh*t about the stuff too until I finally tried it. This stuff is legit. Libido, mood, testicular size increases, and many other solid indications of testosterone rising. It is a great product to ADD to a PCT and once you try it you will know why.

On the internet you gotta discern through peoples bullsh*t about reviews on products but 1 thing I know for sure is I never ever accept any feedback on a product from someone who has not even tried it lol.

Have you even tried it?

 

[XYZ]

I could care less about all this stupid non-sense. I remember when it was fun to go to different boards and research and learn on your own and make YOUR OWN decision's! Now every where you go it's all companies bashing each other which is sad, for people would benefit much more if it were not like this! Oh well, sorry for the rant I just wanted to say that last year I used HCGENERATE for it was all hyped up with a natty supp stack I put together and I made an awesome body recomp. Was very happy with my results and would recommend it and will take it again. Again this is just my opinion, so please don't come bashing me for simply stating my opinion! Hope everyone is well and breaking PR's!

If that is truly the case why are you even posting any of this?

 

[XYZ]

CT there are two sides to every story.

You have your story and many MANY others have their own about Needto with being a good guy and helping people out big time.

Also let me guess... you have never used HCGenerate?

It's usually the case. 99.9% of the time people talk trash about a product... they have not even tried it.

I talked sh*t about the stuff too until I finally tried it. This stuff is legit. Libido, mood, testicular size increases, and many other solid indications of testosterone rising. It is a great product to ADD to a PCT and once you try it you will know why.

On the internet you gotta discern through peoples bullsh*t about reviews on products but 1 thing I know for sure is I never ever accept any feedback on a product from someone who has not even tried it lol.

Have you even tried it?

I'm glad it worked for you, wonderful.

I personally wouldn't put that in my body, so no I didn't try it nor will I. If you want to call me out for that, fine. You're right, but it makes sense to me to just use HCG as it's much less expensive and works. There are numerous medical studies verifying this. Has Nathan ever had any of his stuff tested by a lab? No.

I received a few different PM's about Nathan, Needtobuildmuscle, etc. in particular. In an effort to give an outside, honest view of the truth I posted those links. You can do what you want with them, I don't care.

Nathan doesn't like the fact that certain people called BS to 99.9% of what he has said or done. It hurts his image and his bottom line if the word gets out.

Everyone is untitled to their own opinion. I personally do not care for Nathan, Needto or anything about him. This is MY OPINION. Anyone else who thinks he's a great guy and so on......that's fine, more power to you but Nathan and I have been on a few different boards and it's always the same old crap. I'm sure if I was buying his products it would be a different story.

The funny thing is I don't see how hundreds of people who posted in those threads would ALL make stuff up. Why did not one person defend him? Is some of it embellished? Maybe. Is a lot of it the truth? Yes.

Nathan can say what he wants about me, he personally banned me from EF for something stupid. He banned Heavyiron as well and countless others, most of which didn't agree with what he was saying.

All I'm saying to anyone who is going to defend Nathan is that there is two sides to every story so don't come over here thumping your chest standing up for Nathan when you don't know the past or the entire story.

 

[XYZ]

How about you suck my big fat fucking cock and stop riding ulters dick.
That shits nothing but a pile of hate because I am doing so damn well and they have to settle for running shitting ass research chem sites now..

That Whole thread is one big joke to me and I laugh all the way to the bank daily well they cry like the little bitches they are. Eat my dick!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Dont like me? To fucking bad I ain't going nowhere any time soon.

BTW I control the advertising money of about 8 of this sites sponsors. Go ahead and keep pissing me the fuck off. Watch me fucker.

Your post truly shows how ignorant you are. Do you talk to your wife and kids with that mouth? Don't answer that, I don't really want to know the answer.

Your grammar, punctuation and spelling are nothing short of a second grader. You keep showing how truly clueless and classless you are. This was the way things were at EF, you didn't like someone or something they said and you typed as many cuss words as possible toward them and then banned them.

I really could care less that you "control the advertising money of about 8 of the sites sponsors" what does that have to do with anything? Do you think that anyone cares? Honestly, really?

Nathan your threats are just like your head, empty. Grow up and act like an adult instead of a little teenage girl who doesn't get her way.

The thread in which you speak of does bother you. Why would you bring it up at all if it didn't?

Please go over to AF and sign up and start posting in the AAS section. You know you just might be able to "control the advertising money" of 9 sites if you're lucky. Oh wait......they already know your games, nevermind.

 

[GREBECK]

Anyone ever here of it/use it... it's an OTC sup that a lot of guys on other sites on the net swear by fopr pct.

This is in addition to the typical nolva/clomid, aromasin, etc...

^^^I simply let him know my opinion, that it worked for me and I was happy with the product.

If that is truly the case why are you even posting any of this?

Because when someone asks a question people should tell them their experinces with that supp. negative or positive instead of all you guys hijacking it and bashing each other! Were all suppose to be a sort of brotherhood are we not? Why fight answer the guys question and move on.

 

[chocolatemilk]

I'm glad it worked for you, wonderful.

I personally wouldn't put that in my body, so no I didn't try it nor will I. If you want to call me out for that, fine. You're right, but it makes sense to me to just use HCG as it's much less expensive and works. There are numerous medical studies verifying this. Has Nathan ever had any of his stuff tested by a lab? No.

LOL why are you acting as if HCGenerate is bad or something saying "I wouldn't put that in my body." If ANYTHING, it's hCG I would be more weary about using... which I have used also for cycles.

It is a safe, legal, no pinning required, no hassle needed, alternative to hCG. It obviously won't work as well, but it is better than nothing for the majority of people who don't even use hCG, don't know how to use it, and refuse to inject.

Gotta give them something lol.

I received a few different PM's about Nathan, Needtobuildmuscle, etc. in particular. In an effort to give an outside, honest view of the truth I posted those links. You can do what you want with them, I don't care.

Nathan doesn't like the fact that certain people called BS to 99.9% of what he has said or done. It hurts his image and his bottom line if the word gets out.

Everyone is untitled to their own opinion. I personally do not care for Nathan, Needto or anything about him. This is MY OPINION. Anyone else who thinks he's a great guy and so on......that's fine, more power to you but Nathan and I have been on a few different boards and it's always the same old crap. I'm sure if I was buying his products it would be a different story.

The funny thing is I don't see how hundreds of people who posted in those threads would ALL make stuff up. Why did not one person defend him? Is some of it embellished? Maybe. Is a lot of it the truth? Yes.

Nathan can say what he wants about me, he personally banned me from EF for something stupid. He banned Heavyiron as well and countless others, most of which didn't agree with what he was saying.

All I'm saying to anyone who is going to defend Nathan is that there is two sides to every story so don't come over here thumping your chest standing up for Nathan when you don't know the past or the entire story.

Well we are definitely all entitled to our own opinion you are right and if you have had a bad history with Nathan that is your own... many others, MORE than the ones in the threads you posted have a good history with him.

I really don't care for that and am not here to argue that... I just don't like the bashing of products from people who haven't even tried the product when I have and I thoroughly enjoyed it. If you are using hCG and have no reason to use a test booster that is fine... just don't state it is a bad product if you have never used it.

As Mods I would think Jugger and you would be honest about feedback on products. Honest feedback would be "I have never used it." Not the whole laughing and bashing which is Bull sh*t feedback bro with no hint of truth.

Anyways to the OP, I have used it, and it is a great test booster. Best I've used to be honest. Great addition to a PCT to quickly fire up your libido, mood, and it has even adds some testicular size increase in itself.

I had read a review on another board that a member on 8 months TRT used it and HCGenerate still made an impact on the size of his balls. He said it didn't bring them back fully, but a noticeable change. And that is 1 review out of many that convinced me to try it myself.

 

[M-Rods]

Aren't you a "sponsored Needtobuildmuscle" person?

I agree with what you're saying in regards to people reading things on the internet, which is not the case between Nathan and myself. I know first hand of his "ways" from years ago.

Yes i am sponsored by NTBM, but before I was, I was given an opportunity early last year to use his stuff and I had great results, they really helped me in my progress, and Nate was really helpful and giving during the process, so i joined his team. I don't fluff for anyone, all I'm saying is that he has been straight up with me and pretty generous with his products and time for me, as for the past, that was before my time, and I had read those threads a while ago, theyre pretty harsh, but I can only judge someone from the day I meet them. I can appreciate your points about your personal dealings in the past and any harbored bad feeling you guys may have with each other, thats not my place to interject my thoughts since frankly its none of my business. Theres people in my past that i wouldnt care if they became the pope I'd still call them shit to anyone that asked. This is a good board and I'm not here to pimp products but to continue to learn and contribute where I can, if someone wants to ask what I'm using I'll tell them , if not so be it. Its just frustrating seeing products getting trashed based on the person rather than the product itself.

 

[UnrealMachine]

there's a lot of hate going around but at the end of the day, HCGenerate is still a great fucking product

 

[blergs.]

haters will hate.
I never had any issue with need2.
he's been good to me.
so I must agreee ... go fuk yourself.
ohh and have a nice day.

 

[Acesopro]

Would give me life for needto, he's a good guy and is doing things right as you can see.

 

[XYZ]

Yes i am sponsored by NTBM, but before I was, I was given an opportunity early last year to use his stuff and I had great results, they really helped me in my progress, and Nate was really helpful and giving during the process, so i joined his team. I don't fluff for anyone, all I'm saying is that he has been straight up with me and pretty generous with his products and time for me, as for the past, that was before my time, and I had read those threads a while ago, theyre pretty harsh, but I can only judge someone from the day I meet them. I can appreciate your points about your personal dealings in the past and any harbored bad feeling you guys may have with each other, thats not my place to interject my thoughts since frankly its none of my business. Theres people in my past that i wouldnt care if they became the pope I'd still call them shit to anyone that asked. This is a good board and I'm not here to pimp products but to continue to learn and contribute where I can, if someone wants to ask what I'm using I'll tell them , if not so be it. Its just frustrating seeing products getting trashed based on the person rather than the product itself.

Totally understood. I've never had any issue with you. I've read a lot of your posts elsewhere, you seem to be a good guy, if I can help you in any way feel free to let me know.

 

[XYZ]

LOL why are you acting as if HCGenerate is bad or something saying "I wouldn't put that in my body." If ANYTHING, it's hCG I would be more weary about using... which I have used also for cycles.

It is a safe, legal, no pinning required, no hassle needed, alternative to hCG. It obviously won't work as well, but it is better than nothing for the majority of people who don't even use hCG, don't know how to use it, and refuse to inject.

Gotta give them something lol.



Well we are definitely all entitled to our own opinion you are right and if you have had a bad history with Nathan that is your own... many others, MORE than the ones in the threads you posted have a good history with him.

I really don't care for that and am not here to argue that... I just don't like the bashing of products from people who haven't even tried the product when I have and I thoroughly enjoyed it. If you are using hCG and have no reason to use a test booster that is fine... just don't state it is a bad product if you have never used it.

As Mods I would think Jugger and you would be honest about feedback on products. Honest feedback would be "I have never used it." Not the whole laughing and bashing which is Bull sh*t feedback bro with no hint of truth.

Anyways to the OP, I have used it, and it is a great test booster. Best I've used to be honest. Great addition to a PCT to quickly fire up your libido, mood, and it has even adds some testicular size increase in itself.

I had read a review on another board that a member on 8 months TRT used it and HCGenerate still made an impact on the size of his balls. He said it didn't bring them back fully, but a noticeable change. And that is 1 review out of many that convinced me to try it myself.

Sorry, but an OTC supplement is not HCG.

 

[XYZ]

Would give me life for needto, he's a good guy and is doing things right as you can see.

That sounds like your problem.