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[rippedforce285]

Okay I posted a few weeks ago but here's my background again. I have been blasting/cruising for about 2 years now. My blasts usually consist of 500mg Test Cyp/wk. and usually dbol or winny. Nothing too crazy. My cruises consist of 250mg Test Cyp/wk. During my last blast which ended about 8 weeks ago, I ran 500mg Cyp and 300mg Deca. Around week 7-8 of the blast, I began to experience what I believed was Deca Dick. I stopped the Deca immediately and finished out my blast with Cyp. Well, I am about 8 weeks into my cruise of 250mg Cyp and still have problems keeping it up. I tried Caber at .5mg E3D for about 3 weeks to no avail. The Caber was definitely legit, so no problems there. I also tried A-dex at 1mg EOD for the past 4 weeks to no avail. Keep in mind I've never ran an AI because I have experienced zero estrogen related sides in the past two years. Yes, I know bloodwork is the only way to know for sure, but I figured you guys can help me in the right direction. Since the Caber did not help, my guess is that it's not Prolactin related. And since the A-dex is not working, I'm assuming its not estro related. So what could it be? Could it be possible that my E2 was high, and the a-dex crashed it that quickly? I've laid off the a-dex for the past week, but nothing has changed. I'm at a loss here. Any feedback is greatly appreciated!!!

 

[Dannie]

Get a blood work done, think you can get it for as little as 50USD in the states.

 

[OldSchoolLifter]

Are you sure your Test is good?

Since their is no blood work, and speculating your adex was good, and caber was good.

You do need SOME estrogen, but you have since backed off the adex.

I would then point to the Test . your LH and Fh are probably suppressed, and the test may be no good. then again I have no idea what test your running. in that case, your shut down, and have low T.

Have you tried Viagra or Cialis?

How old are you? and Yes bro blood work would be the way to go. You can however try proviron at 50mg/ed and see if that helps. Really not sure what else to tell you. sounds like bad test? Or bad adex and your E2 is sky high, or your prolactin is sky high due to bad caber, or all three... LOL

 

[rippedforce285]

i know the adex and caber are good. the test is from a domestic sponsor on here. i assume its legit. but there have been a few people complain that it is not legit or is wayyy underdosed....but i havent lost any significant amount of weight or strength either...so...

 

[Dannie]

There is so many variables and possibilities. Something is definitely bunk, Get a blood panel done.

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[jay_steel]

your playing a guessing game and ordering more and more drugs to combat something you have no clue what your fighting. You through caber in there and apparently that did not work, you throw adex and that did not work. so allmost 100$ worth of drugs when you could have known with a 100$ blood test. Reason its 100 is because prolactin is not on the standard female hormone test. Get blood work done with prolactin and then post the results.

 

[moodyman1]

Deca is notorious for killing your libido long after you stop taking it. Albeit..you didn't take a whole hell of a lot.
In addition to getting bloodwork done I would offer one other suggestion....

Take a break!

Start some aggressive, well thought out PCT and let your body straighten itsself out. You've been "on" for 2 years.

 

[rippedforce285]

Yeah I know I need to take a break...what are some suggestions for a PCT after I've been on for so long??

 

[Dannie]

After 2 years I would recommend 4 shots of HMG and along with standard nolva , clomid PCT.

 

[rippedforce285]

hmg?

 

[poppa_cracker]

I would add HCG in your postcycle

 

[Dannie]

hmg?

http://www.coolcarepharmacy.com/product_images/l/151/46__44980.jpg

All you need is 2 vials. Half a vial e2d or e3d

I would add HCG in your postcycle

HCG should be used during the cycle, if for some rason OP hasn't used HCG throughout his blast and cruise then HMG is much better option.

 

[kboy]

Agreed, blood work is the way to go every single time you are in doubt.

 

[rippedforce285]

Any sponsors on here carry? Haven't seen it...PM please

 

[Dannie]

Any sponsors on here carry? Haven't seen it...PM please

PSL carries it, think Uncle Z used to have it in stock too.

 

[jay_steel]

http://www.coolcarepharmacy.com/product_images/l/151/46__44980.jpg

All you need is 2 vials. Half a vial e2d or e3d


HCG should be used during the cycle, if for some rason OP hasn't used HCG throughout his blast and cruise then HMG is much better option.

It takes more then two vials. I am getting ready to go on HMG right now and following what normal doctors prescribe its 75mg three times a week. so that comes up to 90$ a week. I talked to guys who ran this to get their wives prego and as soon as they dropped it they stopped producing sperm, allot of doctors do not want to prescribe this as a first choice because it may force your LH to kick in and start producing but is it the drug thats making it happen or is your body turning back on that process which is why they put most people on HCG first. Also do to the costs of HMG.

I dont think HMG will fix your issue, so lets get some BL and then well start saying what drugs to take.

 

[Dannie]

It takes more then two vials. I am getting ready to go on HMG right now and following what normal doctors prescribe its 75mg three times a week. so that comes up to 90$ a week. I talked to guys who ran this to get their wives prego and as soon as they dropped it they stopped producing sperm, allot of doctors do not want to prescribe this as a first choice because it may force your LH to kick in and start producing but is it the drug thats making it happen or is your body turning back on that process which is why they put most people on HCG first. Also do to the costs of HMG.

I dont think HMG will fix your issue, so lets get some BL and then well start saying what drugs to take.

I was blasting and cruising for over a year, 7 months into my blast and cruise I stopped using HCG. Then during my Clomid and Nolva PCT I added 1 vial (2 shots, 2 days apart) of HMG, my natural test bounced back in a record time of 2 weeks.

 

[jay_steel]

yeah but there are allot of variables i dont want to sound like im talking shit which im not Dannie. HMG is primary used to bring back sperm count. HMG elevates natural LH levels and also mimics fsh levels where HCG tricks your body into thinking its producing LH levels but not fsh. It does nothing for natural test levels. There are many articles that support this as well.

"Although HMG is relatively new to the steroid community there are already misconceptions surrounding its use. People fail to realize that recommended dosages in the enclosed literature are for the original purpose of drug ? that of a fertility stimulant in women. For men?s purposes, a much lower dose is needed. A single shot of 75 i.u.?s may be all that?s necessary. You can even try spitting that up into two half shots over two days. Using more, will not ?do more.? It will not elevate T higher, or give you bigger balls so don?t even think about it. "

[h=2]Usual Dosage[/h]Dosage must be carefully determined for each patient, and may be changed during treatment cycle.
During a fertility treatment cycle in women, from a ratio of 75 units FSH:75 LH to 150 units FSH:150 LH injected once daily for 5 days or more. For male treatment, 75 units FSH:75 LH units three times weekly for several months.

 

[Dannie]

"Although HMG is relatively new to the steroid community there are already misconceptions surrounding its use. People fail to realize that recommended dosages in the enclosed literature are for the original purpose of drug ? that of a fertility stimulant in women. For men?s purposes, a much lower dose is needed. A single shot of 75 i.u.?s may be all that?s necessary. You can even try spitting that up into two half shots over two days. Using more, will not ?do more.? It will not elevate T higher, or give you bigger balls so don?t even think about it. "

Thats the exact article I read when deciding how to dose it. It certainly has worked for me. Got 4 more vials chilling in my fridge, cant imagine a PCT without it.
Heres the link to the complete article for anyone whos interested HMG - Human Menopausal Gonadotropin - Even Better than HCG for Post Anabolic Steroid Cycle Therapy | Bodybuilding News EliteFitness.com

 

[jay_steel]

yeah i honestly dont see a need for it unless your having issues with sperm count. The price of it is insane, i plan on jumping on it and using 3 bottles a week until i get my wife preg so i hope it happens fast because this shit is more then my hgh bill.

 

[Darth]

Just get a damn blood test. Without that you are throwing darts blindfolded.