Hey GOPRO! TO LOAD OR NOT TO LOAD?

[Lightman009]

Ok, I did a loading phase for Creatine and used it for 9 weeks. Then I went off of it for about 3 weeks, now I want to take it again but I was wondering if I should go through another loading phase or just start taking it right after I workout like usual?

THANKS!

 

[gopro]

After being off for only 3 weeks a reload is not really necessary. However, you can maybe use 10 grams per day for a few days, then back off to 5 just to make sure...but like I said, a whole new load isn't necessary.

 

[Arnold]

loading is a controversial issue anyway, there is no real evidence (that I know of) that can prove loading is necessary.

(if there is evidence, please post the url )

 

[Mudge]

I believe DP posted that those who load get better gains, even though on paper its not needed/proven that I've seen.

 

[gopro]

Loading if nothing else will saturate your muscles with creatine more quickly. This will lead to feeling the effects sooner than if a gradual intake is used.

I have done it both ways. I say load! In this case though, it really isn't necessary b/c his muscles will still be fairly saturated after only 3 weeks off. He will just need to "top off his levels" like a half filled gas tank.

 

[Lightman009]

Great info. thanks! I really appreciate it.

 

[Arnold]

I still will not load.

 

[gopro]

Originally posted by Prince
I still will not load.

Ok, lets take inventory...

1- will not load creatine
2- will not wake in the middle of the night for protein drink
3- will not deadlft

...what will ya do?

 

[Robboe]

Even though i rarely use creatine, if i was to do a proper "cycle", if that's what you'd call it, i would load, but i wouldn't load the way the bottle tells you to.

2-4 days loading with say 10-15g a day would satisfy the task.

 

[Arnold]

Originally posted by gopro


Ok, lets take inventory...

1- will not load creatine
2- will not wake in the middle of the night for protein drink
3- will not deadlft

...what will ya do?

I have tried loading creatine before, and saw no benefit, maybe some people do benefit from it. I have always viewed it as a way for the supplement companies to get you to take more creatine.

During the middle of the night I will sleep.

I do heavy rows, and I squat, which for me is sufficient.

 

[gopro]

Originally posted by Prince


I have tried loading creatine before, and saw no benefit, maybe some people do benefit from it. I have always viewed it as a way for the supplement companies to get you to take more creatine.

During the middle of the night I will sleep.

I do heavy rows, and I squat, which for me is sufficient.

Whatever makes you happy my friend!

 

[Arnold]

Should I do a loading phase?

Probably not. Everyone who sells creatine wants you to do a loading phase where you take 20 grams a day for the first 5 days. From their standpoint - the more you take - the more they sell. However, unless you are in a hurry to gain muscle mass loading is not necessary. Studies have shown that people who load have greater gains than people who take just 5 grams a day after the first 2 weeks. However, after 4 weeks both groups are at an equal level. So, all loading does is just get you to the same point 2 weeks faster. We don't think taking 100 grams in 1 week is worth it if all it does is shave 2 weeks off the process. In the end you are not going to have greater gains with loading.

taken from: http://www.absolute-creatine.com/5.htm

 

[Rissole]

Originally posted by gopro
2- will not wake in the middle of the night for protein drink

So you actually recomened getting up for a protien drink GP???
I usually get up for a piss, so if that's what you rekon i'll get a protien while i'm at it !!

 

[kuso]

Peeps....thats pretty much what he said if I remember rightly.....if he gets up to piss he`ll slam one down while he`s up.

 

[Tank316]

thats what i do.if i'm up, might as well slug down some protien......

 

[gopro]

Originally posted by peetrips

So you actually recomened getting up for a protien drink GP???
I usually get up for a piss, so if that's what you rekon i'll get a protien while i'm at it !!

Yup, I always get up at least once for a piss. I keep an already made drink in the fridge. Takes 2 seconds to slam it down...then back off to dreamland, growing as I go!

 

[gopro]

Originally posted by Prince
Should I do a loading phase?

Probably not. Everyone who sells creatine wants you to do a loading phase where you take 20 grams a day for the first 5 days. From their standpoint - the more you take - the more they sell. However, unless you are in a hurry to gain muscle mass loading is not necessary. Studies have shown that people who load have greater gains than people who take just 5 grams a day after the first 2 weeks. However, after 4 weeks both groups are at an equal level. So, all loading does is just get you to the same point 2 weeks faster. We don't think taking 100 grams in 1 week is worth it if all it does is shave 2 weeks off the process. In the end you are not going to have greater gains with loading.

taken from: http://www.absolute-creatine.com/5.htm

You say toMAYto, I say toMAHto...hmmm, hmmm, hmmm

 

[JD_Boss]

GP,

For some reason, I've NEVER realized any gains from creatine. At first, I though it was because I'm a coffee drinker (mornings only)...but I read an article somewhere that said a cup or two in the mornings shouldn't have any negative effects on creatine?

I haven't been on creatine for well over a year. I just bought some and thought I'd give it one more try. Any suggestions at to the most effective creating "coctail"? 10 gram doses? Grape Juice? Dash of Ribose? Mixed w/ liquid amino fuel? Before and after workout?

 

[I Are Baboon]

Originally posted by peetrips

So you actually recomened getting up for a protien drink GP???
I usually get up for a piss, so if that's what you rekon i'll get a protien while i'm at it !!

The only thing I got up to do in the middle of the night is to take a piss. Of course, gopro is three times my size.

I've been using creatine on and off for seven years. Loading never really does help me much.

 

[gopro]

Originally posted by JD_Boss
GP,

For some reason, I've NEVER realized any gains from creatine. At first, I though it was because I'm a coffee drinker (mornings only)...but I read an article somewhere that said a cup or two in the mornings shouldn't have any negative effects on creatine?

I haven't been on creatine for well over a year. I just bought some and thought I'd give it one more try. Any suggestions at to the most effective creating "coctail"? 10 gram doses? Grape Juice? Dash of Ribose? Mixed w/ liquid amino fuel? Before and after workout?

Well, there are some people out there that are "creatine non-resonders." However, it can also be in the brand you purchase, your method of use, or inconsistency of use.

For those that don't respond to regular creatine I recommend "titrated" creatine before giving up completely.

This is how you should use the creatine you have...

-days 1-7...5 grams 4 x per day mixed in 6 oz grape juice between meals (one dose should be after training)
-after day 7...5 g mixed in grape juice or protein carb drink right after workout and on non training days, 5 g first thing in the morning.

Let me know how it goes.

 

[JD_Boss]

Thanks for the info!!!

I almost bought IDS Creatine Tirtate from Fit-Body, but wasn't sure...didn't anything about it. And, I shyed away from cell-tech and poser-tech because of the amount of sugars.

Need to check with them to see if they will exchange the regular creatine that I just bought...

Thanks Again!!!

 

[gopro]

You are welcome! Yeah, see if you can get the IDS...good stuff!