high power CEE replacement.

[Kracin]

i just received in the mail today a box from bodybuilding.com, at first i have no idea what it was because i had already gotten all of my order the day before. and it turns out they sent me a free tub of CEE with a note explaining that the last batch had a bad test result at one lab and a 100% test result at another. so they werent taking any chances and sent a replacement for the product i purchased... i was pleased to hear it because the cee i had did seem a bit off from what i heard about it, i hadnt used any creatine before so i was oblivious to it at first until i read some small controversy over it.

did this happen for anyone else? and is the stuff i had before basically worthless and tossable?

 

[redspy]

If they were concerned enough to offer a free replacement I'd dump it. Obviously it's not going to harm you but it's not worth taking if it had a bad lab test IMO.

 

[Tha Don]

i agree with red, dump the weak stuff

 

[Pirate!]

Ask bb.com WTF they sent you.

 

[Du]

Ask bb.com WTF they sent you.

They got bashed by hundreds for selling "fake CEE" over on bb.com.

It was actually pretty funny. I imagine theyre trying to save face by sending you a free one, especially saying that the "other lab" said its 100% positive.

 

[Kracin]

well actually, the stuff i had before was a crystal like substance, that didnt dissolve very well. and the stuff they sent to replace it is a powdery substance that dissolves very easily, as well as having a different taste... so its believable that there was deffinately a difference in the two

 

[Arnold]

You know shit like this is just funny to me, and at the same time sad.

Everyone wants to buy the cheapest fricking discount supplements they can, and all I have to say is you get what you pay for.

I am not joking when I say IronMagLabs supplements have the highest quality ingredients available, they may be on the high end in price, but they are worth it. Every last milligram of what is on our labels in the bottle.

So all of you cheap son's of bitches keep buying your discount shit and good luck with that.

As I have said many times.... let's see another supplement company post their COA's right on their websites as I do, yeah right they would be embarrassed to, or they would not even have them to post in the first place.

If you care about your bodies then pay the extra few dollars and buy high quality supplements.

 

[Phoenix87]

Gee Prince don't hold back... OK

 

[Arnold]

sorry, it is my my passion.

 

[Du]

Gee Prince don't hold back... OK

It means a lot that he posts his COAs online for all to see, and that most companies dont. Says something about the quality of product, and in turn, the quality of the brand.

Welcome to IM, Pheonix.

 

[Arnold]

right, a COA is a 'certificate of analysis' that shows the purity of each ingredient.

 

[Phoenix87]

Thanks DU, I just found this site a few weeks ago. Pretty imforative. Although tough to get a straight answer. Where in CT are you from???

 

[Du]

Thanks DU, I just found this site a few weeks ago. Pretty imforative. Although tough to get a straight answer. Where in CT are you from???

What do you need a straight answer on?

I'm in the Houstatonic Valley. You?

 

[Arnold]

Although tough to get a straight answer.

About what?

 

[Phoenix87]

Up North right on the Mass line.... Well I'm taking NO2 and Anavol. I've seen some results which is better than before I was at a plateau and stopped gaining. Although at the same I read the NO2 book and changed my diet. However when an NO2 thread starts it's all about bashing the product... The problem is I don't think half the guys bashing it actually tried it. Not sure... Anyway I'm at the end of my months supply and i'm thinking of trying something different.... Looking for some advice. By the way I'm new to body building, 42 years old just trying to stay in shape. No plans to compete or anything.

 

[Arnold]

Up North right on the Mass line.... Well I'm taking NO2 and Anavol. I've seen some results which is better than before I was at a plateau and stopped gaining. Although at the same I read the NO2 book and changed my diet. However when an NO2 thread starts it's all about bashing the product... The problem is I don't think half the guys bashing it actually tried it. Not sure... Anyway I'm at the end of my months supply and i'm thinking of trying something different.... Looking for some advice. By the way I'm new to body building, 42 years old just trying to stay in shape. No plans to compete or anything.

NO2 only contains one inrgedient: Arginine alpha-Ketoglutarate

it is a good ingredient but there are many others that should be in a product of this nature, and for only having AKG NO2 is overpriced.

ovbiously I am going to recommend my product Maximum Pump which contains AKG plus several other ingredients: http://www.bulknutrition.com/?products_id=1737

 

[Du]

Up North right on the Mass line.... Well I'm taking NO2 and Anavol. I've seen some results which is better than before I was at a plateau and stopped gaining. Although at the same I read the NO2 book and changed my diet. However when an NO2 thread starts it's all about bashing the product... The problem is I don't think half the guys bashing it actually tried it. Not sure... Anyway I'm at the end of my months supply and i'm thinking of trying something different.... Looking for some advice. By the way I'm new to body building, 42 years old just trying to stay in shape. No plans to compete or anything.

Mass line west, central, or east?

As for NO2 - many people wouldnt spend a penny on it by itself. Thats why youre meeting such resistance.

How did you like the NO2 product you were on? Are you looking for something similar?

 

[Pirate!]

As I have said many times.... let's see another supplement company post their COA's right on their websites as I do, yeah right they would be embarrassed to, or they would not even have them to post in the first place.

http://customnutritionwarehouse.com/shop/articles.php?tPath=7


I agree that being cheap can leave you with poor supplements. You can get good bulk deals on powders if you know where to look, though. People swear by BAC Tribulus Extract , and it is only $25 for 50 grams. If this is truly top-notch Trib, I'd say it is a good deal.

You can't go wrong buying from www.customnutritionwarehouse.com either. I wouldn't buy bulk powders from bb.com, though.

 

[Phoenix87]

DU510, I live in Enfield, so I'd say that's central. Rte. 91 runs right thru so I can be in Hartford in 20 minutes or Springfield, Ma. in 10.
As for NO2 I read the book before buying so i knew what to expect. I seen the pumps after about 10 days but they only lasted a few hour rather than all day. I started Anavol after two weeks and I noticed some growth and bumped up my weights also. At the same time however I started counting watching what I ate and made sure I took in at least 200 grams of protein. In the last 4 weeks I gained about 5 pounds and I'm still around 13% body fat. I probably spent around $160 between both supplements. I don't mind the price if it works. I was thinking of Maxium Pump one because it sounds pretty good, and two I know where to find the rep........

 

[Pirate!]

If you are looking for a great NO product, try this: http://customnutritionwarehouse.com/shop/product_info.php?cPath=1&products_id=106

 

[Twin Peak]

CoA's don't mean that much as far as I am concerned. Rob, I really haven't seen what you have posted, but if you get an ingredient from Chem house A, and they give you a CoA, there is nothing showing that that CoA isn't falsified by chem house A.

Do you independently verify the accuracy of the CoA?

If so, then that means something.

 

[Kracin]

You know shit like this is just funny to me, and at the same time sad.

Everyone wants to buy the cheapest fricking discount supplements they can, and all I have to say is you get what you pay for.

I am not joking when I say IronMagLabs supplements have the highest quality ingredients available, they may be on the high end in price, but they are worth it. Every last milligram of what is on our labels in the bottle.

So all of you cheap son's of bitches keep buying your discount shit and good luck with that.

As I have said many times.... let's see another supplement company post their COA's right on their websites as I do, yeah right they would be embarrassed to, or they would not even have them to post in the first place.

If you care about your bodies then pay the extra few dollars and buy high quality supplements.

i dont get if you are trying to bash bad products in general or say that im stinging on things. but just to clear some things up, if i was going to be cheap with something like this, i would be using monohydrate for price, and i am extremely new to a lot of bodybuilding and training. so i went with a good supplier (bodybuilding.com) who a lot of people use, and checked the top sellers for what people most used and made my decision on that. if i knew of anything better to use i would definately be using it because i can afford pretty much any supplement out there, and want nothing but the best for myself. if your labs made a creatine i would probably try it very quickly robert.

 

[ChrisROCK]

NO2 only contains one inrgedient: Arginine alpha-Ketoglutarate

it is a good ingredient but there are many others that should be in a product of this nature, and for only having AKG NO2 is overpriced.

ovbiously I am going to recommend my product Maximum Pump which contains AKG plus several other ingredients: http://www.bulknutrition.com/?products_id=1737

I was just looking at this Prince... Perhaps you can clarify/explain something for me... The website says it contains Tri-creatine Malate. It also says "works well with V12 Turbo".....whose main ingredient is tri-creatine malate. Isn't that overkill?

Is it not accurate that they work well together?

Any info is appreciated.

 

[Arnold]

It also says "works well with V12 Turbo".....whose main ingredient is tri-creatine malate. Isn't that overkill?

I have no idea what you're talking about, yes Maximum Pump is similar to V12, my site does not say anything about it "working well" with another product, if that is what BN is pulling up ask them why, not me.

 

[ChrisROCK]

I have no idea what you're talking about, yes Maximum Pump is similar to V12, my site does not say anything about it "working well" with another product, if that is what BN is pulling up ask them why, not me.

I was only referencing the link you posted...i didn't say it was "YOUR" site or not...didn't really take note of what site it was quite honestly. I was just interested in the product. If you look at the link above, on the right hand side of the page it has a section that says "Works well with"... It was just an honest inquiry...i wasn't implying any wrong doing or misinformation...

 

[Arnold]

CoA's don't mean that much as far as I am concerned. Rob, I really haven't seen what you have posted, but if you get an ingredient from Chem house A, and they give you a CoA, there is nothing showing that that CoA isn't falsified by chem house A.

Do you independently verify the accuracy of the CoA?

If so, then that means something.

My COA's are coming from the manufacturer that produces my product, Thor Inc. (whom I not only trust, but chose to deal with out of about 5 or 6 that I was talking to initially last year), it is something they require from their suppliers, and my manufacturer ONLY deals with trusted suppliers. And in order to gain trust in a new supplier, yes Thor will have their own COA performed on ingredients. They do not just get their raw materials from the cheapest vendor out there, in fact they have a list of suppliers that they deal with.

Just as there are many crooked (and bad) lawyers out there, the same is true with manufacturers. Before I decided to have Thor produce my product I spoke with the owner personally who even gave me references. I have a lot of trust in them, and I am 100% confident that they produce the highest quality product they are capable of, they adhere to GMP, and they have not been able to stay in busness for over 17 years by producing crap. In fact, they were one of the most expensive manufacturers that I got a quote from when I was first looking to produce Anabolic-Matrix Rx.

Twin Peak, If that does not mean anything to you, well okay, it does to me though. That is all I have to say.

 

[Arnold]

I was only referencing the link you posted...i didn't say it was "YOUR" site or not...didn't really take note of what site it was quite honestly. I was just interested in the product. If you look at the link above, on the right hand side of the page it has a section that says "Works well with"... It was just an honest inquiry...i wasn't implying any wrong doing or misinformation...

oh okay, that is just how BN's site works, it pulls other product links and "says works well with..", I have no idea why it would be pulling V-12 with mine, cause yes they both contain Tri-creatine malate and other similar ingredients.

 

[Arnold]

i dont get if you are trying to bash bad products in general or say that im stinging on things. but just to clear some things up, if i was going to be cheap with something like this, i would be using monohydrate for price, and i am extremely new to a lot of bodybuilding and training. so i went with a good supplier (bodybuilding.com) who a lot of people use, and checked the top sellers for what people most used and made my decision on that. if i knew of anything better to use i would definately be using it because i can afford pretty much any supplement out there, and want nothing but the best for myself. if your labs made a creatine i would probably try it very quickly robert.

not really bash other products, I am just saying you get what you pay for, it's true with anything you buy and supplements are no exception.