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How do you feel about Mexicans and the new immigration bill?

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ForemanRules said:
Not correcting you son, just thought it was a big word I did not know. Now I see that it was not. ;)

No, it was just a typo. I was in the middle of rebuilding a Windows 2003 server and missed it. If you're interested, read up on the difference between "affect" and "effect." :)
 
god hand said:
I hate to say, but DOMS is right. This country we become a total wasteland without whites. I'm black and I'm saying this.

Yeah, but without blacks (and others), the US would be like white bread with mayo only. :(
 
ForemanRules said:
That is a very simplistic and wrong view of it son. You are thinking of the new bourgeoisie in Europe and they were at times some of the wealthiest people of that society....hardly what I would call a middle class. The idea of a true middle class is much more recent than 700 years ago son.....keep reading.

DOMS said:
The bourgeoisie became the wealthy of Europe. The true middle class came years later, but the foundation was set by the bourgeoisie. Actually, they seeds that they planted came to haunt them later.

Talk to an economist or someone who understand the underpinnings of economy of middle class. It's generally accepted that the middle class started with the Black Plague. It killed so many peasants that for the first time in history (at least in Europe) the supply of laborers exceeded demand and could get higher wages. This low demand of laborers wasn't (and isn't) static, its fluctuated over the years (e.g. The early 1900s in the US), but is the basis for the middle class.
Yes the Petite bourgeoisie would be considered the middle class.
 
DOMS said:
No, it was just a typo. I was in the middle of rebuilding a Windows 2003 server and missed it. If you're interested, read up on the difference between "affect" and "effect." :)
To be honest I don't remember misusing that word; did I??
 
ForemanRules said:
To be honest I don't remember misusing that word; did I??

No, it's just that most people do and I find this sort of thing interesting and thought that I'd share it.
 
DOMS said:
No, it's just that most people do and I find this sort of thing interesting and thought that I'd share it.
What I get wrong all the time is the use of: then or than.....have no clue on this one.
 
DOMS said:
If you're interested, read up on the difference between "affect" and "effect." :)

I get those two backwards almost every time. It's starting to Effect my sense of well being. Hopefully they won't be long term Affects. :p
 
Yeah sure it is illegal. It has been for years and years. The problem is it hasn't been enforced worth a shit. There are 12 million in this country. They are enrolled in schools. They do yard and house work for millions of people including politicians, law enforcement and immigration officers. What does that tell you... Someone hasn't been enforcing this 'law' very much over the years. We have illegal people that have been in this country living and working for 40+ years. They have legal American born children and grandchildren with tight family environments. Now you want to tell these people thanks for their last 40 years of work but you are going to throw them out of the country and break up their family? It just hasn't been a enforced law for so many years, it is completely unfair to change the rules after this long.

If you want to enforce it fine... start enforcing it but people that are already here and established shouldn't have their lives pulled out from under them. There should be some legal route they can take to stay in the country.

One thing Americans don't seem to realize is that people can't just apply for citizenship legally. There just isn't a way to do it.

They are a large important part of the economy. They are harder working than most Americans I have seen and make far less.
 
Whats with all the liberal bashing? Last time I checked republicans were associated w/ the "rich white man" a,d Frist, Mccain, and GWB are the ones leading the attack on illegal immigration, ALL w/ completely different views.

Thats where your arguement DOMS really falls to shit. You get off track and start attacking someone's political party. You're obviously knowledgable in the historical sense, but when you commit an incorrect falacy like that it really dicredits your arguement.
 
goandykid said:
Whats with all the liberal bashing? Last time I checked republicans were associated w/ the "rich white man" a,d Frist, Mccain, and GWB are the ones leading the attack on illegal immigration, ALL w/ completely different views.

Thats where your arguement DOMS really falls to shit. You get off track and start attacking someone's political party. You're obviously knowledgable in the historical sense, but when you commit an incorrect falacy like that it really dicredits your arguement.

I think DOMS is correct in his bashing of the Libs. Republicans honestly don't give a fuck and act that way. Libs act like they give a fuck and it is at the top of their agenda, but at the end of the day while they are eating their filet in their mansion, the black man is the last thing on their mind. I'd rather know where someone stands than have them talk one way and act another.
 
Dale Mabry said:
I think DOMS is correct in his bashing of the Libs. Republicans honestly don't give a fuck and act that way. Libs act like they give a fuck and it is at the top of their agenda, but at the end of the day while they are eating their filet in their mansion, the black man is the last thing on their mind. I'd rather know where someone stands than have them talk one way and act another.

But there are many more minority liberals. Barak Obama, Hillary:laugh:, Al Sharpton :laugh: , etc
 
They should allow immigrants to have full citizenship if they can provide a video of a useless American living off of welfare doing things that could be considered a job skill. Like a neighbor of mine was on welfare in Texas and he was always outside working on cars getting money under the table and drunk every night. If they get the video and prove a person on welfare can work, they should then get a permit to kidnap that person and have them transported to a Guatemalan jungle, then they can come back and take over that persons home and vehicle.
 
NeilPearson said:
One thing Americans don't seem to realize is that people can't just apply for citizenship legally. There just isn't a way to do it.

What planet are you from? Of course there's a way to legally apply for citizenship. Yeah, it takes some time, but it's there and gets used every day by people who respect this country and it's laws.
 
Nachez said:
god hand u know Texas used to be part of mexico
and its original people were spanish right?
Of course I do, what's that got to do with people coming across the border to work for 10 dollars a day?:confused: And they werent the "original people" Native Americans were. The Mexican race is a mixed race period. Spanish+indian=mexican:barf: Asians, Africans, Arabs all come to this country to money serious money, get PH.D's and do serious jobs. Mexicans come over to work cheap labor illegeally and get this, acts like this is mexico! Their the only race that do this. Mexican music, mexican flags they act like they love mexico so much. If they love it so much then why the fuck they come over here?:bulb: Last week while protesting, they were screaming "Mexico!" and waving mexican flags. Why are you waving a country flag with pride, but at the same time protesting not to go back to it?:confused: And I throught my race was stupid........:laugh:
 
god hand said:
Why are you waving a country flag with pride, but at the same time protesting not to go back to it?:confused: And I throught my race was stupid........:laugh:

:rofl:
 
my high score was 49:lame: I'm working w/ a laptop touchpad:(
 
lnvanry said:
my high score was 49:lame: I'm working w/ a laptop touchpad:(


RACIST!!!!
 
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